THE DARK SIDE

topic posted Mon, July 28, 2008 - 1:04 AM by  Sam=Sam
How many of you can be ruthlessly HONEST about the DARK SIDE of your character . . . seeing as you are relatively safe to express this . . . What do you hav to say for yourselves . . .???
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Sam=Sam
Australia
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 4:28 AM
    i AM ruthlessly honest about my dark side, ...... to ME!! not to others, i hunt my shadow self, and it hunts me. but to others? Quite frankly, its none of their business, id be locked up if they knew. i dont even mention the dreams about blood and fresh meat, the people where i live are fragile lil creatures, that scurry when they see even the slightest hint of my shadow( orlando, land of the desperately afraid).
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    Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 8:09 AM
    I try not to separate my self-perspective into "light" and "dark" (or "good" vs. "bad"). It's all part of the same thing. People who have this ridiculous fear of the "dark" amuse me to no end.
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 9:27 AM
    meh
    • Re: THE DARK SIDE

      Mon, July 28, 2008 - 11:49 AM
      i have no dark side. i am a beaming radiant ball of ethereal light shining through the cosmos on my way to whereverthefuck all enlightened and shining and glowy and shit.
      • Re: THE DARK SIDE

        Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:09 PM
        "i have no dark side. i am a beaming radiant ball of ethereal light shining through the cosmos on my way to whereverthefuck all enlightened and shining and glowy and shit."

        I call bullshit on this.
        I know without *knowing* that you have given more than one person a Dutch Oven in your lifetime. I can just see it on you. It's your cross to bear.
        • Re: THE DARK SIDE

          Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:14 PM
          enlightenment is gassy..
          • Re: THE DARK SIDE

            Fri, August 15, 2008 - 12:47 AM
            Enlightenment is . . . . nothing more than what it is . . . A Mind Concept . . . mostly missss-interpreted by those who don't know how to sit in a sand pit with a child of 2, and see the magic in that, and in a sunrise . . . or truly taste the freshness of a ripe strawberry without any interpretation of what it is . . . just be in that experience . . .

            Do a small bit of research and you will find enlightenment is the place where a person is only just beginning to "See" . . . sort of like the first rung on the fictitious ladder of Awakening . . .

            In my person the Dark Side is not anything beyond lack of honesty . . . [the Dark Side IS ALSO A Mind Concept . . . nothing more . . . to the writer that is] . . .

            And thank you for your concern for my mental-physical health, one and all, I can assure you when I build [which is constantly happening], houses, . . . I RARELY hit my finger with a hammer . . . once in the last 5 years or so . . . don't do drugs . . . not part of any religion, cult or group, . . . oh yeah . . . am solidly planted on the ground . . . Earth-Capricorn-Ox, Virgo moon . . . Born Hobart Tasmania 9th Jan 1950 7am, for the astrologers amongst you . . .

            Enjoy .. . Life goes ON . . .
            • Re: THE DARK SIDE

              Fri, August 15, 2008 - 4:50 AM
              "am solidly planted on the ground . . . Earth-Capricorn-Ox, Virgo moon ."

              Er, yeah, referring to astrology to "prove" you're not a total flake (and not pathologically obsessed with esoteric nonsense and symbolism) isn't a very effective strategy. The babbling new age evangelism and inter-galactically patented Crazy Person Writing StyleTM also gives it away.
            • Re: THE DARK SIDE

              Fri, August 15, 2008 - 9:28 AM
              Sam ejaculated:
              >"And thank you for your concern for my mental-physical health, one and all, I can assure you when I build [which is constantly happening], houses, . . . I RARELY hit my finger with a hammer . . . once in the last 5 years or so . . . don't do drugs . . . not part of any religion, cult or group, . . . oh yeah . . . am solidly planted on the ground . . . Earth-Capricorn-Ox, Virgo moon . . . Born Hobart Tasmania 9th Jan 1950 7am, for the astrologers amongst you . . ."<

              Ya really got to look into your definition of ground then dude... Seriously... I am an atheist and a builder and I never hit my fingers with a hammer at least not in the last 10 years or so.. Those are called skills. They are acquired by learning. As fifi pointed out, using irrational esoteric concepts to validate your sanity seriously brings the question of your sanity into question. <My thanks to the dept of redundancy Department for that last sentence>

              www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode37.htm
              Mrs O What are you?
              Mrs Trepidatious I'm Nesbitt.
              Mrs O There's not a zodiacal sign called Nesbitt...
              Mrs Trepidatious All right, Derry and Toms.
              Mrs O (surveying paper) Aquarius, Scorpio, Virgo, Derry and Toms. April 29th to March 22nd. Even dates only.
              Mrs Trepidatious Well what does it presage?
              Mrs O You have green, scaly skin, and a soft yellow underbelly with a series of fin-like ridges running down your spine and tail. Although lizardlike in shape, you can grow anything up to thirty feet in length with huge teeth that can bite off great rocks and trees. You inhabit arid sub-tropical zones and wear spectacles.
              Mrs Trepidatious It's very good about the spectacles.
              Mrs O It's amazing.
              Mrs Trepidatious Mm ... what's yours, Irene?
              Mrs O Basil.
              Mrs Trepidatious I'm sorry, what's yours, Basil?
              Mrs O No. That's my star sign, Basil...
              Mrs Trepidatious There isn't a...
              Mrs O Yes there is ... Aquarius, Sagittarius, Derry and Toms, Basil. June 21st to June 22nd.
              Mrs Trepidatious Well, what does it say?
              Mrs O You have green, scaly skin and a series of yellow underbellies running down your spine and tail ...
              Mrs Trepidatious That's exactly the same!

              I'm thinking you might look to the Pythons for enlightenment.

              JSin
      • Re: THE DARK SIDE

        Wed, July 30, 2008 - 9:35 PM
        >> i have no dark side. i am a beaming radiant ball of ethereal light shining through the cosmos on my way to whereverthefuck all enlightened and shining and glowy and shit. <<

        LOL!!! I [heart] the snark on this tribe sometimes!
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:27 PM
    What do you hav to say for yourselves <<,


    Have ends with an E. Always has, most likely will for a while yet.

    Even the dark side has spell check.
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:05 PM
    Is this a racial thread? Because if it is I am deeply offended! Am I supposed to be ashamed of my dark side? ALL of me is dark! Why does dark equal bad? How is that fair to us dark people? I thought you believed in love and understanding! It saddens me deeply to hear you speaking of my darkness as though it is something I should feel shame about.

    Oh Sam, I am so disappointed! I thought you were different. I thought you were enlightened but now I see you too just swallow the same old traditions of viewing dark as bad and white as good. I am in TEARS! Color me sad.
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 5:24 PM
    I say this in all earnestness, Sam - are you on a whole bunch of drugs? It might be time to cut back a little bit. Some of us have been having our fun with you but it's actually kinda sad to see you so misguidedly reach out. And your rantings remind me of some other folks I've known who were rather liberal in their usage of, er, extra-curriculars. None of those scenarios ended well.
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Wed, July 30, 2008 - 9:36 PM
    I am pretty damn honest with myself about my "dark side". I don't share it with many others though. I've have some really dark thoughts when in deeper depressions in my past...
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Sat, August 2, 2008 - 12:29 AM
    I express who I am black or flowery. I am me.. I am Sin.... from a bound woman and sacred whore to a kitten in need of food. I am at all times honest regardless of consequence.

    JSin
    • 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

      Wed, August 13, 2008 - 11:08 PM
      Jebuz folks... I think when this thread was started, it may have been an invitation to share awareness of our dark sides, not LITERALLY share 'em!
      In essence, having a dark side would be the 'part~Taking' in choices which are made in justifying and rationalizing questionable actions.

      I am fascinated by this topic, otherwise... how personalities develop & maintain self~defeating patterns, nearly sub~conscious motives {mode~OFs?} which serve specifically to 'save' or 'protect' one from imagined or feared 'dangers'. It is after all, a pretty subjective stuff, depending highly upon experience.

      Might this be more a question of how one handles unpleasant or poor outcomes?
      • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

        Wed, August 13, 2008 - 11:20 PM
        In essence, having a dark side would be the 'part~Taking' in choices which are made in justifying and rationalizing questionable actions."

        I forgot to clarify that what I meant by the statement 'Choices made in', was relative to a sense of covering up, protecting ones' self, hiding, re~framing {situations}, the logic by which a part of one's personality decides to handle an outcome.

        That 'Dark side' in and of itself might be misconstrued by merit of multiple definitions there~of should go unsaid & understood. I do not by any means condone condemning animal nature which often is insinuated {In~Sin~U~Ate? just ponder That!} to be a dark nature by religion.

        • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

          Thu, August 14, 2008 - 4:57 AM
          To be honest, I find you evangelical types who come into EH to scold us heathens or to try to get followers really lame (non-evangelical believers I take no issue with, whether we agree about certain things or not). You have every right to your opinions and beliefs of course, it's just lame that you enter the tribe expecting everyone to give a shit when you've contributed nothing of value here previously and expecting to be respected when you show no respect yourself. (Not to mention all the comparing and judging you do, you guys are such dualists it's funny how you constantly talk about unity and "one is all" when you clearly don't act like you believe it!) Those of you evangelicals who are "sane", tend to be fascists who want to impose your chosen morality on others. Those of you who are clearly having a psychotic break and unable to communicate because of this (and get mesmerized by how one words *sounds* like another and find deep meaning in this) have lost the plot and need professional help. Put down the bong and move away from the delusion...
          • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

            Thu, August 14, 2008 - 6:10 PM
            "To be honest, I find you evangelical types who come into EH to scold us heathens or to try to get followers really lame"

            Co-sign. Not to mention I find your punctuation & random capitalization deplorable. I never thought simple text could feel so much like a bad acid trip.
          • Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

            Sun, August 17, 2008 - 4:05 PM
            I don't even know where to begin with you on this one; and I feel like you are way out in left field reading me! If your assessment of my value is in social hierarchy, frequency of visits, dependability to go along with whatever is going on, then yes my dear... I am absolutely worthless .
            But then, I consider the described intention of this tribe and what it supposedly stands for as more than valuable, despite it's miserably slow and decidedly backward trend, these days... .

            Is simply *Having* the rashness to quickly conjecture assumptively with the tacit tact of a cranky ape at the zoo passing for 'extreme honesty' these days? Honestly, It's just extreme. Might want to drop some of those defenses... evidently they didn't do any good last time you were 'off~ended' {I mean: taken aback by social indignities to the point of going OFF the deep end}. Do the people who believe you must live like them listen long enough to say they are sorry, they will try harder next time to consider how other's feel before telling them they are going to hell without their meddling? Better yet, just stick with that theme, tell everyone to go to hell, with their meddling.
            I'm just sorry you missed the point.

            Or, To be ''Brutally Honest' {lmao, wth peeps?!} , it just sounds like like a few of you got way too jaded on that last bender... forget that there are many different kinds of people, much? ON THE INTERNET, of all places, no less? What on earth is an 'evengelical type', anyway? I live with a life coach who shares freely the things he has learned {not personal, just technical stuff} and am deeply intrigued with it... what they have termed the Shadow in that field {aka Dark Side} functions as a facet of one's personality! How when something traumatizing occurs in one's life, it's common for one to subconsciously follow in behavioral footsteps of the initiator of the trauma, essentially the Shadow seeks to bring attention to itself and the events that made it by doing them! It's one of the
            I made minor mention that I was not addressing carnal nature; indeed, I really just don't care about other's sex lives... we all got one, whatever.
            Discerning a difference and describing for others is now scolding??? You really need to take a 2nd look at what I wrote honey, and leave that preconceived idealogical dogma curbed at the corner!

            I love wordplay, am merely intrigued by some of the disturbingly subtle religious & moral connotations in our language. If you really want to write it off as threateningly creepy insanity, go ahead... your loss, not mine. I will continue to do as I do and wonder randomly that people can be so trite and miss even the most simple of lighthearted puns. That is my 'cross to bear' as it were, and I'll be damned if I'm going to put it down now ;') Please don't attribute your assumptions onto my personal observations. If you understand punctuation and inflection, it is perfectly legible as I habitually capitalize words within words to denote personal observation.
            Don't like it? Read through, and get over it. I too have to struggle through ungodly shitty run~on grammar constantly in 'teh interwebs', just look at Yahoo Groups to see how abysmally far education has sunk in our nation.

            Oh yeah~ I am more than aware that being comfortable about who and how I am and that expressing feelings about life, whether dancing, singing or talking, is rarely the positive experience I mistook it for... obviously I am an attention~whore and to be branded & shunned like the contagious plague I must have. Don't worry, you won't catch it since it takes an open ear and an attentive mind to do so!
            • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

              Mon, August 18, 2008 - 7:38 AM
              Attention whore? It hadn't even occurred to me actually that this was your agenda but thanks for bringing it to light. Based on your actions so far here, you seem more like a lecture whore who likes to preach/babble on in a rather predictable new age way that's far from profound (or even humorous) and is not nearly as original as you seem to have convinced yourself it is. No doubt there's more to you than what you've presented here, just as there is much more to all the rest of us than you seem to have assumed. (Ya know, two edged swords cut both ways so you may want to be a bit more aware about swinging that thing around under the assumption that your judgments/opinions/subjectivity are somehow more enlightened than anyone else's. It appears you've already taken an eye out and are having trouble seeing in more than two dimensions...in the land of the blind and desperate I'm sure this makes you the all seeing leader but the vast majority of people who actually participate in this tribe have two working eyes so you're just highlighting that your vision lacks depth.)
            • Shing light onto shadow aspects

              Mon, August 18, 2008 - 8:20 AM
              ha li,i - It sounds like your life coach roommate has shared with you a somewhat simplistic idea of Jung's "shadow" that's been perverted somewhat from the original concept. Though you do seem to be giving a somewhat good illustration of one way shadow aspects of the personality seep out when denied.

              "As a consequence, the shadow is prone to project: turning a personal inferiority into a perceived moral deficiency in someone else."

              en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shad...sychology)

              It's only the wikipedia version but at least it will give you some grounding in the concept and perhaps help you understand that there's no need to be scared or ashamed of your shadow.
            • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

              Mon, August 18, 2008 - 8:45 AM
              ha li,i - It's also interesting to observe that you seem to have rolled all of us who participate in EH into being one person in your mind and communications (since you seem to be either responding to me and attributing things other people have said to me or speaking to us all as one person...the classic "them"). Of course, it's particularly interesting since you seem to be complaining that we don't know who you really are (of course we don't, we only know the aspects of yourself you've expressed here both openly and unconsciously, you're the one who's making the assumptions we should know more about you and that you know more about us than you do...not that I doubt that you're familiar with your shadow aspects and meet them in others often, just that we're not your shadow not matter how much you project, deny and try to convince us and yourself that the parts of yourself you wish to disown aren't parts of you!)
              • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

                Tue, August 19, 2008 - 12:53 AM
                LOL....

                I can't remember the last time I was rolled into the category of "THEM"

                At least in this tribe and a couple others I think I have been, um how best to say it, unlikely to get along with others on a regular basis.

                JSin