THE DARK SIDE

topic posted Mon, July 28, 2008 - 1:04 AM by  Sam=Sam
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How many of you can be ruthlessly HONEST about the DARK SIDE of your character . . . seeing as you are relatively safe to express this . . . What do you hav to say for yourselves . . .???
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  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 4:28 AM
    i AM ruthlessly honest about my dark side, ...... to ME!! not to others, i hunt my shadow self, and it hunts me. but to others? Quite frankly, its none of their business, id be locked up if they knew. i dont even mention the dreams about blood and fresh meat, the people where i live are fragile lil creatures, that scurry when they see even the slightest hint of my shadow( orlando, land of the desperately afraid).
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    Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 8:09 AM
    I try not to separate my self-perspective into "light" and "dark" (or "good" vs. "bad"). It's all part of the same thing. People who have this ridiculous fear of the "dark" amuse me to no end.
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 9:27 AM
    meh
    • Re: THE DARK SIDE

      Mon, July 28, 2008 - 11:49 AM
      i have no dark side. i am a beaming radiant ball of ethereal light shining through the cosmos on my way to whereverthefuck all enlightened and shining and glowy and shit.
      • Re: THE DARK SIDE

        Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:09 PM
        "i have no dark side. i am a beaming radiant ball of ethereal light shining through the cosmos on my way to whereverthefuck all enlightened and shining and glowy and shit."

        I call bullshit on this.
        I know without *knowing* that you have given more than one person a Dutch Oven in your lifetime. I can just see it on you. It's your cross to bear.
        • Re: THE DARK SIDE

          Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:14 PM
          enlightenment is gassy..
          • Re: THE DARK SIDE

            Fri, August 15, 2008 - 12:47 AM
            Enlightenment is . . . . nothing more than what it is . . . A Mind Concept . . . mostly missss-interpreted by those who don't know how to sit in a sand pit with a child of 2, and see the magic in that, and in a sunrise . . . or truly taste the freshness of a ripe strawberry without any interpretation of what it is . . . just be in that experience . . .

            Do a small bit of research and you will find enlightenment is the place where a person is only just beginning to "See" . . . sort of like the first rung on the fictitious ladder of Awakening . . .

            In my person the Dark Side is not anything beyond lack of honesty . . . [the Dark Side IS ALSO A Mind Concept . . . nothing more . . . to the writer that is] . . .

            And thank you for your concern for my mental-physical health, one and all, I can assure you when I build [which is constantly happening], houses, . . . I RARELY hit my finger with a hammer . . . once in the last 5 years or so . . . don't do drugs . . . not part of any religion, cult or group, . . . oh yeah . . . am solidly planted on the ground . . . Earth-Capricorn-Ox, Virgo moon . . . Born Hobart Tasmania 9th Jan 1950 7am, for the astrologers amongst you . . .

            Enjoy .. . Life goes ON . . .
            • Re: THE DARK SIDE

              Fri, August 15, 2008 - 4:50 AM
              "am solidly planted on the ground . . . Earth-Capricorn-Ox, Virgo moon ."

              Er, yeah, referring to astrology to "prove" you're not a total flake (and not pathologically obsessed with esoteric nonsense and symbolism) isn't a very effective strategy. The babbling new age evangelism and inter-galactically patented Crazy Person Writing StyleTM also gives it away.
            • Re: THE DARK SIDE

              Fri, August 15, 2008 - 9:28 AM
              Sam ejaculated:
              >"And thank you for your concern for my mental-physical health, one and all, I can assure you when I build [which is constantly happening], houses, . . . I RARELY hit my finger with a hammer . . . once in the last 5 years or so . . . don't do drugs . . . not part of any religion, cult or group, . . . oh yeah . . . am solidly planted on the ground . . . Earth-Capricorn-Ox, Virgo moon . . . Born Hobart Tasmania 9th Jan 1950 7am, for the astrologers amongst you . . ."<

              Ya really got to look into your definition of ground then dude... Seriously... I am an atheist and a builder and I never hit my fingers with a hammer at least not in the last 10 years or so.. Those are called skills. They are acquired by learning. As fifi pointed out, using irrational esoteric concepts to validate your sanity seriously brings the question of your sanity into question. <My thanks to the dept of redundancy Department for that last sentence>

              www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode37.htm
              Mrs O What are you?
              Mrs Trepidatious I'm Nesbitt.
              Mrs O There's not a zodiacal sign called Nesbitt...
              Mrs Trepidatious All right, Derry and Toms.
              Mrs O (surveying paper) Aquarius, Scorpio, Virgo, Derry and Toms. April 29th to March 22nd. Even dates only.
              Mrs Trepidatious Well what does it presage?
              Mrs O You have green, scaly skin, and a soft yellow underbelly with a series of fin-like ridges running down your spine and tail. Although lizardlike in shape, you can grow anything up to thirty feet in length with huge teeth that can bite off great rocks and trees. You inhabit arid sub-tropical zones and wear spectacles.
              Mrs Trepidatious It's very good about the spectacles.
              Mrs O It's amazing.
              Mrs Trepidatious Mm ... what's yours, Irene?
              Mrs O Basil.
              Mrs Trepidatious I'm sorry, what's yours, Basil?
              Mrs O No. That's my star sign, Basil...
              Mrs Trepidatious There isn't a...
              Mrs O Yes there is ... Aquarius, Sagittarius, Derry and Toms, Basil. June 21st to June 22nd.
              Mrs Trepidatious Well, what does it say?
              Mrs O You have green, scaly skin and a series of yellow underbellies running down your spine and tail ...
              Mrs Trepidatious That's exactly the same!

              I'm thinking you might look to the Pythons for enlightenment.

              JSin
      • Re: THE DARK SIDE

        Wed, July 30, 2008 - 9:35 PM
        >> i have no dark side. i am a beaming radiant ball of ethereal light shining through the cosmos on my way to whereverthefuck all enlightened and shining and glowy and shit. <<

        LOL!!! I [heart] the snark on this tribe sometimes!
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:27 PM
    What do you hav to say for yourselves <<,


    Have ends with an E. Always has, most likely will for a while yet.

    Even the dark side has spell check.
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:05 PM
    Is this a racial thread? Because if it is I am deeply offended! Am I supposed to be ashamed of my dark side? ALL of me is dark! Why does dark equal bad? How is that fair to us dark people? I thought you believed in love and understanding! It saddens me deeply to hear you speaking of my darkness as though it is something I should feel shame about.

    Oh Sam, I am so disappointed! I thought you were different. I thought you were enlightened but now I see you too just swallow the same old traditions of viewing dark as bad and white as good. I am in TEARS! Color me sad.
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 5:24 PM
    I say this in all earnestness, Sam - are you on a whole bunch of drugs? It might be time to cut back a little bit. Some of us have been having our fun with you but it's actually kinda sad to see you so misguidedly reach out. And your rantings remind me of some other folks I've known who were rather liberal in their usage of, er, extra-curriculars. None of those scenarios ended well.
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Wed, July 30, 2008 - 9:36 PM
    I am pretty damn honest with myself about my "dark side". I don't share it with many others though. I've have some really dark thoughts when in deeper depressions in my past...
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Sat, August 2, 2008 - 12:29 AM
    I express who I am black or flowery. I am me.. I am Sin.... from a bound woman and sacred whore to a kitten in need of food. I am at all times honest regardless of consequence.

    JSin
    • 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

      Wed, August 13, 2008 - 11:08 PM
      Jebuz folks... I think when this thread was started, it may have been an invitation to share awareness of our dark sides, not LITERALLY share 'em!
      In essence, having a dark side would be the 'part~Taking' in choices which are made in justifying and rationalizing questionable actions.

      I am fascinated by this topic, otherwise... how personalities develop & maintain self~defeating patterns, nearly sub~conscious motives {mode~OFs?} which serve specifically to 'save' or 'protect' one from imagined or feared 'dangers'. It is after all, a pretty subjective stuff, depending highly upon experience.

      Might this be more a question of how one handles unpleasant or poor outcomes?
      • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

        Wed, August 13, 2008 - 11:20 PM
        In essence, having a dark side would be the 'part~Taking' in choices which are made in justifying and rationalizing questionable actions."

        I forgot to clarify that what I meant by the statement 'Choices made in', was relative to a sense of covering up, protecting ones' self, hiding, re~framing {situations}, the logic by which a part of one's personality decides to handle an outcome.

        That 'Dark side' in and of itself might be misconstrued by merit of multiple definitions there~of should go unsaid & understood. I do not by any means condone condemning animal nature which often is insinuated {In~Sin~U~Ate? just ponder That!} to be a dark nature by religion.

        • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

          Thu, August 14, 2008 - 4:57 AM
          To be honest, I find you evangelical types who come into EH to scold us heathens or to try to get followers really lame (non-evangelical believers I take no issue with, whether we agree about certain things or not). You have every right to your opinions and beliefs of course, it's just lame that you enter the tribe expecting everyone to give a shit when you've contributed nothing of value here previously and expecting to be respected when you show no respect yourself. (Not to mention all the comparing and judging you do, you guys are such dualists it's funny how you constantly talk about unity and "one is all" when you clearly don't act like you believe it!) Those of you evangelicals who are "sane", tend to be fascists who want to impose your chosen morality on others. Those of you who are clearly having a psychotic break and unable to communicate because of this (and get mesmerized by how one words *sounds* like another and find deep meaning in this) have lost the plot and need professional help. Put down the bong and move away from the delusion...
          • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

            Thu, August 14, 2008 - 6:10 PM
            "To be honest, I find you evangelical types who come into EH to scold us heathens or to try to get followers really lame"

            Co-sign. Not to mention I find your punctuation & random capitalization deplorable. I never thought simple text could feel so much like a bad acid trip.
          • Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

            Sun, August 17, 2008 - 4:05 PM
            I don't even know where to begin with you on this one; and I feel like you are way out in left field reading me! If your assessment of my value is in social hierarchy, frequency of visits, dependability to go along with whatever is going on, then yes my dear... I am absolutely worthless .
            But then, I consider the described intention of this tribe and what it supposedly stands for as more than valuable, despite it's miserably slow and decidedly backward trend, these days... .

            Is simply *Having* the rashness to quickly conjecture assumptively with the tacit tact of a cranky ape at the zoo passing for 'extreme honesty' these days? Honestly, It's just extreme. Might want to drop some of those defenses... evidently they didn't do any good last time you were 'off~ended' {I mean: taken aback by social indignities to the point of going OFF the deep end}. Do the people who believe you must live like them listen long enough to say they are sorry, they will try harder next time to consider how other's feel before telling them they are going to hell without their meddling? Better yet, just stick with that theme, tell everyone to go to hell, with their meddling.
            I'm just sorry you missed the point.

            Or, To be ''Brutally Honest' {lmao, wth peeps?!} , it just sounds like like a few of you got way too jaded on that last bender... forget that there are many different kinds of people, much? ON THE INTERNET, of all places, no less? What on earth is an 'evengelical type', anyway? I live with a life coach who shares freely the things he has learned {not personal, just technical stuff} and am deeply intrigued with it... what they have termed the Shadow in that field {aka Dark Side} functions as a facet of one's personality! How when something traumatizing occurs in one's life, it's common for one to subconsciously follow in behavioral footsteps of the initiator of the trauma, essentially the Shadow seeks to bring attention to itself and the events that made it by doing them! It's one of the
            I made minor mention that I was not addressing carnal nature; indeed, I really just don't care about other's sex lives... we all got one, whatever.
            Discerning a difference and describing for others is now scolding??? You really need to take a 2nd look at what I wrote honey, and leave that preconceived idealogical dogma curbed at the corner!

            I love wordplay, am merely intrigued by some of the disturbingly subtle religious & moral connotations in our language. If you really want to write it off as threateningly creepy insanity, go ahead... your loss, not mine. I will continue to do as I do and wonder randomly that people can be so trite and miss even the most simple of lighthearted puns. That is my 'cross to bear' as it were, and I'll be damned if I'm going to put it down now ;') Please don't attribute your assumptions onto my personal observations. If you understand punctuation and inflection, it is perfectly legible as I habitually capitalize words within words to denote personal observation.
            Don't like it? Read through, and get over it. I too have to struggle through ungodly shitty run~on grammar constantly in 'teh interwebs', just look at Yahoo Groups to see how abysmally far education has sunk in our nation.

            Oh yeah~ I am more than aware that being comfortable about who and how I am and that expressing feelings about life, whether dancing, singing or talking, is rarely the positive experience I mistook it for... obviously I am an attention~whore and to be branded & shunned like the contagious plague I must have. Don't worry, you won't catch it since it takes an open ear and an attentive mind to do so!
            • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

              Mon, August 18, 2008 - 7:38 AM
              Attention whore? It hadn't even occurred to me actually that this was your agenda but thanks for bringing it to light. Based on your actions so far here, you seem more like a lecture whore who likes to preach/babble on in a rather predictable new age way that's far from profound (or even humorous) and is not nearly as original as you seem to have convinced yourself it is. No doubt there's more to you than what you've presented here, just as there is much more to all the rest of us than you seem to have assumed. (Ya know, two edged swords cut both ways so you may want to be a bit more aware about swinging that thing around under the assumption that your judgments/opinions/subjectivity are somehow more enlightened than anyone else's. It appears you've already taken an eye out and are having trouble seeing in more than two dimensions...in the land of the blind and desperate I'm sure this makes you the all seeing leader but the vast majority of people who actually participate in this tribe have two working eyes so you're just highlighting that your vision lacks depth.)
            • Shing light onto shadow aspects

              Mon, August 18, 2008 - 8:20 AM
              ha li,i - It sounds like your life coach roommate has shared with you a somewhat simplistic idea of Jung's "shadow" that's been perverted somewhat from the original concept. Though you do seem to be giving a somewhat good illustration of one way shadow aspects of the personality seep out when denied.

              "As a consequence, the shadow is prone to project: turning a personal inferiority into a perceived moral deficiency in someone else."

              en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shad...sychology)

              It's only the wikipedia version but at least it will give you some grounding in the concept and perhaps help you understand that there's no need to be scared or ashamed of your shadow.
            • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

              Mon, August 18, 2008 - 8:45 AM
              ha li,i - It's also interesting to observe that you seem to have rolled all of us who participate in EH into being one person in your mind and communications (since you seem to be either responding to me and attributing things other people have said to me or speaking to us all as one person...the classic "them"). Of course, it's particularly interesting since you seem to be complaining that we don't know who you really are (of course we don't, we only know the aspects of yourself you've expressed here both openly and unconsciously, you're the one who's making the assumptions we should know more about you and that you know more about us than you do...not that I doubt that you're familiar with your shadow aspects and meet them in others often, just that we're not your shadow not matter how much you project, deny and try to convince us and yourself that the parts of yourself you wish to disown aren't parts of you!)
              • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

                Tue, August 19, 2008 - 12:53 AM
                LOL....

                I can't remember the last time I was rolled into the category of "THEM"

                At least in this tribe and a couple others I think I have been, um how best to say it, unlikely to get along with others on a regular basis.

                JSin
                • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

                  Tue, August 19, 2008 - 1:00 AM
                  Something about this thread make me want to dance like a robot every time I peek in. Oh yeah- CAUSE ITS BORING.

                  Hullabaloo/Sam, stop taunting the dynamite monkeys and stop bothering Fifi. She doesn't want to play with you, and it's bad manners to be a dick about it.
                • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

                  Tue, August 19, 2008 - 4:33 AM
                  JSin - Well now that you're starting your own cult you better get used to being an "us" or "them"...collectivity, being part of "The Family" and all that....
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Why so threatened?

                    Tue, August 19, 2008 - 7:59 AM
                    I've got to wonder why these new age types are so threatened by me and others here in EH that they seek to reform/convert us and find the unvarnished truth too much to handle. I mean, are they all alts for promoting Big Supplement and commercial interests and WatchTower lady style crazeees? Or are they really so deluded that they go around projecting the parts of themselves they don't like on others and then trying to fix them as a means to avoid dealing directly and honestly with their own shadow aspects?
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

                    Tue, August 19, 2008 - 9:09 AM
                    . . . ha ha . . .ha ha ha ha . . . BUT
                    . . . . . . . . . . . . .aHHhahhhhh . . . said the blind man . . . I HEAR a light upon, AS that window breaks . . . as does the glass upon the cobble-stONE . . . tinkles . . .

                    the laugh happens IN GRATITUDE for all of your words . . . as GRATITUDE FLOWS for experienceS of the DIVINE rashly put to print by some like me . . . .

                    . . . . . and its INTERESTING you know . . . all that you all say is true in some sense (some a tad obscure,) . . . AND what s so bizarre about any of it -->REALLLLLLLLY ? ? ?

                    the sun shine upon my bed in the morning
                    the birds sing
                    and with grace
                    . . . my feet plant once more FIRMLY upon the Earth
                    EVERY DAY . . . rain hail or shine . . .

                    as Earth
                    slowly flicks us all to extinction

                    none of what is said and written can, or will, alter the experience of pure bliss
                    that found its way into my life

                    the same birds sing
                    as some of you reveal your own personal lacerated slander of pain
                    you throw at your computers towards other people(s) . . .

                    The slander belongs to the writer(s) . . .
                    AND, to no-one else . . .

                    (AND, dear ones, CAN NEVER BELONG TO ANYBODY ELSE EXCEPT THE WRITER . . . ) . . .can it ! ?

                    AS MY EXPERIENCE (thinking it may be interesting to discuss amongst other people) TRULY IS THE OWNERs SHIT about Bliss . . .

                    beauty or pain
                    From the HIGHEST level of experience are both the same
                    slander or compassionate wisdom
                    From the HIGHEST level of experience are both the same

                    If we be all roses
                    where is the fragrance and the flowers . . . SHARED . . . ? ? ?

                    [Im amazed this blog keeps going . . . ? ! ?]

                    As Fifi points out . . . WE ARE ALL ONE FAMILY . . . the old saying of "You can choose your friends but not yr relations . . . " applies

                    . . . but SOME may not realise (that from DNA studies currently happening) it is fast approaching the reality, (if it has not done so already), where we are ALL (largely), ONE FAMILY, . . . BY GENETIC CODES (BLOOD LINES IF YOU LIKE)

                    . . . [ apart from being ONE FAMILY as the Planet falls BEYOND OUR foolish collective ability to keep Earth habitable (for ALL OF US Humans to live on . . . IE . . .) ] .

                    KEEP SMILING . . .
                    what else !

                    PS.
                    Know there is Beauty, Gentleness and Love
                    [This is not theory . . . it is an EXPERIENCE available to everyone [thats got nothing to do with religion, OR Hitler, OR Websters dictionary, OR me.
                    . . . . . . the same as Peace and Freedom is available . . . on the INNER SIDE of the Human Being, if not on the outside of it . . . Wasnt it GHANDHI who said something like "You can kill my body and torture me, BUT you cant kill my Spirit of Freedom . . ." ! ? ? ]

                    Its all a choice
                    . . . . . WE ALL make in every moment of Life . . .







                    • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

                      Tue, August 19, 2008 - 9:14 AM
                      sam, if none of our antipathy can belong to anyone but ourselves, doesn't it follow that none of your wisdom can belong to anyone but you?
                      so, then, ultimately, is there really any point to any of this?
                      • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

                        Tue, August 19, 2008 - 9:18 AM
                        holy shitballs, Sam...
                        i think i just threw up a little bit.
                        • Where is the CHOCOLATE? . . .

                          Thu, August 21, 2008 - 7:33 AM
                          Shitballs to some
                          Holy to others yawning
                          And defensive is not the reaction this end of the keyBORED . . .
                          And (quelle bleue), if boredom IS the REAL issue, then WHAT ARE YOU DOING reading the boredom for in the first place?
                          . . . not that it matters one bit.

                          I am most amused . . .
                          Better than TV . . .

                          PS... .
                          From what many have written, It looks like a certain mould, character, or arch-type, has to be fitted INTO, 2 be considered Enlightened, LIKE A PERSON HAS TO fit a certain criteria of presentation to be taken seriously . . .
                          . . . "Do you know what Enlightenment IS?" (most people wouldn't know IF ASKED!)
                          Enlightenment is a Mind concept most people do not understand,
                          . . . seems obvious,
                          . . . even as a concept, MOST HAVE NO CLUE . . .
                          . . . the writer DEFINITELY had no clue . . . even of the Concept of what it is, until researched in the last 6months . . .

                          Ask anyone about LOVE . . . where is the consensus . . . ?
                          It appears to be the same around Enlightenment
                          . . . NO consensus agreement would be found amongst a 1000 people if asked . . .

                          I don’t give a shit about whether or not the writer, or anyone else, IS or IS NOT, in the space of Enlightenment . . . from the value-judgement view, it’s totally irrelevant . . . BUT . . . blogs are a fast way to explore, my interest on the mundane level is to find out where peoples heads go . . . you are providing that in abundance
                          . . . THANK YOU KINDLY . . .
                          AND, amongst it all is the sound of some people who actually think about what the story is . . . isnt that interesting!
                          • Where is the champagne? . . .

                            Thu, August 21, 2008 - 9:01 AM
                            Where is the champagne, AND chocolate? . . .

                            Judgement, hostility, combined with mostly negativity comments, is what the writer seems to observe, as the combination found on the 6 blogs sent out by the writer on EXTREME HONESTY . . . Few of the 22 responding contributors have interacted with the subject initially written about . . .
                            Most responding contributors have preferred to use the site to denigrate the experiences of the writer and others . . . sort OF, out of touch with the words shared . . . not that it matters . . . it’s only 22 people after all.

                            Yoon = 23 replies
                            Elaine = 22 replies
                            Fifi = 22 replies
                            The writer = 20 replies
                            Josh = 13 replies
                            dave, J Sin, Mammoth = 10 replies each
                            Quelle = 9 replies
                            Wild = 8 replies
                            Misha, Ha li,l. = 7 replies each
                            Nicole = 6 replies
                            Quan, Ann, Rich, Free, = 4 replies each
                            Jin, Ali = 3 replies each
                            Harold, B.E.B., = 2 replies each
                            Wand, Saddha, Paidia = 1 reply each

                            Interesting hey!
                            Great stuff . . .
                            THANK YOU.
                            • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                              Thu, August 21, 2008 - 9:05 AM
                              "Judgement, hostility, combined with mostly negativity comments, is what the writer seems to observe, as the combination found on the 6 blogs sent out by the writer on EXTREME HONESTY"

                              It's possible you're confusing Extreme Honesty with ass kissing and flowery, new-age, mambie-pambie rigamarole. Eh, there I go judging AND feeding the trolls. Josh zero, Universe 2.
                              • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                Thu, August 21, 2008 - 9:40 AM
                                MULTI-VERSE and Josh is One
                                . . . so it makes no difference what the result of the blog contributions are
                                . . . to be otherwise is TRYING2 put a fence thru the ocean
                                . . . which ultimately is impossible . . .

                                The guru trip is a high-jacking of the INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS of the individuality
                                . . . that the writer does not agree with
                                . . . AND the writer seems to hav been the brunt of anger from many sources on this tribe . . .

                                Also in the words of this tribe description is a few words about compassionate something or other
                                . . . that was seeeeeemingly lacking along the way
                                . . . treatment in this tribe is a bit like being ripped apart by a pack of dingoes (wolves in the US).

                                It "IS AS IT IS" hey
                                . . . AND, do whatever you want with the information
                                . . . it came free to the writer and it is given back freely
                                . . . without judgement.
                              • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                Thu, August 21, 2008 - 10:02 AM
                                He's too busy going from thread to thread counting up replies to know where he really is and what he really seeks.

                                And by the way can a post really count as a reply when it is actually conversational banter with others in the thread and not even directed at the original post?

                                Didn't Alex already get kicked out of this tribe? It amazes me how many alts some people have. I feel like one of these days I am going to find out that there are really only three people on the whole of Tribe and I am part of some Truman Showesque type situation.
                                • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                  Thu, August 21, 2008 - 10:12 AM

                                  "Didn't Alex already get kicked out of this tribe? It amazes me how many alts some people have."
                                  Who's Alex ? And isn't a post a post if it makes it onto the scoreboard of life ?
                                  • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                    Fri, August 22, 2008 - 9:33 AM
                                    >>"Didn't Alex already get kicked out of this tribe? It amazes me how many alts some people have."
                                    Who's Alex ? And isn't a post a post if it makes it onto the scoreboard of life ? <<

                                    I think that playuh is an alt of Sam/Alex too.
                                    • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                      Fri, August 22, 2008 - 10:08 AM
                                      Alex is now 550ppm or some such name - I don't think Sam is him (unless Alex had a psychotic break) 'cause Alex was at least lucid (though who can truly know the mysterious ways of the crazeee evangelical). Playuh does however seem like an alt of Sam's, if only because he writes kinda the same way but as if trying to control the meandering thoughts.
                                      • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                        Fri, August 22, 2008 - 10:15 AM
                                        People have alts on tribe, and they often reserve different areas of their personality for their alts. People even fight with their own alts to throw suspicion off of themselves as well as for sheer entertainment. Sam and Playuh could be anyone really.
                                        • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                          Fri, August 22, 2008 - 10:22 AM
                                          Yuni - "People have alts on tribe, and they often reserve different areas of their personality for their alts"

                                          I wonder if this actually precipitates schizophrenia and strange compartmentalization of the personality in people who are prone to it? Or it's just a physical extension of their internal schism and lack of integration.

                                          And, I'd agree, they really could be anyone. There's plenty of bored or crazy people on a mission out there (though it would be kind of comforting to know it was a couple of lone players/crayzees not a whole barmy army).
                                          • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                            Fri, August 22, 2008 - 10:27 AM
                                            >>I wonder if this actually precipitates schizophrenia and strange compartmentalization of the personality in people who are prone to it? Or it's just a physical extension of their internal schism and lack of integration.<<

                                            sometimes, but not always

                                      • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                        Fri, August 22, 2008 - 10:16 AM
                                        I always suspected that Alex/550ppm was an alt of one of the EH crew who stormed off in a huff along with him into the anti-EH tribes (particularly because Alex then followed me around tribe doing his EH schtick in pretty much any tribe I was active in). Who knows if he was the same nutter who did a similar (though more elaborate) think to yuni *shrug* The ways of the crayzeee - or bored teenage boy - are indeed mysterious (if rather predictable on a practical level).
                                        • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                          Fri, August 22, 2008 - 10:26 AM
                                          Alex actually joined several tribes I was a member of including the pregnancy, breastfeeding and postpartum mothers tribe. It ended up in drama and he was dismissed from some of them. For a supposed brand new dad of twins he had a surprising amount of free time to post day and night.
                                          • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                            Fri, August 22, 2008 - 11:11 AM
                                            Yuni - Yeah, same tactics. I'm talking about the more recently !Alex! (who may or may not have been the same Alex that got obsessed with you and was following you around when I first joined EH, he seems obsessed enough but certain things are more a manifestation of a particular mental illness than actually a personality or individual thing).
                                            • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                              Fri, August 22, 2008 - 11:15 AM
                                              I am talking about the more recent !Alex!
                                              He joined all those tribes right as he was getting kicked out of this one. He made some moms uncomfortable and then cried that he was being discriminated against when asked to leave. And I can't even begin to describe how annoying it is to have a guy try to hand out advice in a breastfeeding tribe. Just sayin.
                                              • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                                Fri, August 22, 2008 - 11:27 AM
                                                Yuni - Wow! He must have been busy 'cause he was doing the same shit in tribes he'd joined that I was in too once he got kicked out of EH.
                                                • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                                  Fri, August 22, 2008 - 11:29 AM
                                                  very interesting.
                                                  • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                                    Fri, August 22, 2008 - 11:39 AM
                                                    Yuni - Maybe from a larger perspective. At the time it was just more of the same boring and shallow pseudo-Buddhist/whatever psychobabble schtick aimed at "reform", all very evangelical - I kinda figured that it was one of the crew who stormed out of EH in a huff after !Alex! got booted who was the originator of the !Alex! alt and complicit in the attempt to "bring down" EH (talk about silliness!).
                                            • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                              Fri, August 22, 2008 - 11:18 AM
                                              I think the person you are thinking of from when you first joined EH was Adam and he got kicked out of here and started an anti-EH tribe and now spends his time trolling the BurningMan tribe, though I have no doubt that he has alts around. Most of the best trolls have several alts.
                            • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                              Thu, August 21, 2008 - 9:32 AM
                              "it’s only 22 people after all."

                              What ? Is this your thread scorecard or what ? And what am I ? Chopped liver ? You gotta be in the "in crowd" here or what ?
                              • Re: Where is the champagne? . . .

                                Thu, August 21, 2008 - 9:52 AM
                                Maybe speaking TRUTH can be construed as showing ones Dark Side . . . the only difference being that, the information comes to you FREELY without any emotional flavour or hostility
                                . . . . thank you, thank you, thank you very much (the song sings . . .)

                                NEVER THOUGHT OF IT AS A THREAD SCORECARD . . but it is an APT description
                                . . . AND, no need exists to be in the IN crowd . . .
                      • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

                        Thu, August 21, 2008 - 5:52 AM
                        Absolutely TRUE Dave . . . No Point . . .apart from the original enquiry
                        . . . "What stops people from accessing the so-called Enlightened state?" . . .
                        • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

                          Thu, August 21, 2008 - 5:29 PM
                          Absolutely TRUE Dave . . . No Point . . .apart from the original enquiry
                          . . . "What stops people from accessing the so-called Enlightened state?" . . .
                          ===================================================================
                          i dunno, arguing w/people on tribe all day?
                    • Re: Extreme Antipathy, or; Bore Me, Baby!

                      Sat, August 23, 2008 - 11:01 PM
                      "but SOME may not realise (that from DNA studies currently happening) it is fast approaching the reality, (if it has not done so already), where we are ALL (largely), ONE FAMILY, . . . BY GENETIC CODES (BLOOD LINES IF YOU LIKE)"

                      Has been established with quite decent probability,
                      that every person alive today is descended from one female
                      who lived in Africa circa 150,000 yrs ago. (The obvious
                      tendency to call her "Eve" should be resisted.)

                      And from one male who lived in the same general area
                      circa 70,000 yrs ago.

                      Note: No upper case letters, save those for proper
                      usage were utilized in this response.
        • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

          Thu, August 14, 2008 - 6:08 PM
          "{In~Sin~U~Ate? just ponder That!}"


          hahahahahahahahahahaha. I nearly fell out of my chair.
          • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

            Thu, August 14, 2008 - 10:58 PM
            dude, i've been pondering all day & i'm just not getting anywear.

            help me to understand, please!
            • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

              Fri, August 15, 2008 - 7:47 AM
              You been doing it wrong... You are supposed to be pondering how to get into someone's underwear all day.

              Duh...

              JSin
              • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

                Fri, August 15, 2008 - 8:15 AM
                "You been doing it wrong... You are supposed to be pondering how to get into someone's underwear all day.

                Duh...

                JSin"

                Shit. If that's all it takes to become enlightened then I'm like a motherfuckin' Grand Ninja Yogi or some shit. Thinking about getting laid is just a subroutine I run in the background while going about my other duties.
                • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

                  Sun, August 17, 2008 - 4:09 PM
                  ***Shit. If that's all it takes to become enlightened then I'm like a motherfuckin' Grand Ninja Yogi or some shit. Thinking about getting laid is just a subroutine I run in the background while going about my other duties.***

                  Agh, it's shit like THAT that makes me afraid of followers! At least you're honest about it... right... . .
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

                    Mon, August 18, 2008 - 6:06 AM
                    ha li,i - You can keep your private emails telling me why you "feel sorry" for me to yourself (that's as far as I got since that's the opening gambit of people who desperately need to consider themselves superior and I really don't care what you think or about your false pity or your need to feel superior). I'm not interested in what you're selling so you can desist from knocking on my door trying to sell it to me. Talk about missionary zeal! We get people who behave like you behave coming around EH with some regularity trying to "save us" with whatever belief system they've bought into so they can make it through the day (or claim their mania is "enlightenment" when they're actually shrouding themselves in Maya because they can't actually deal with being "awake" in the real world). Like most followers of this kind, you preach one thing and do the opposite.
                    • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

                      Mon, August 18, 2008 - 3:47 PM
                      Talk about jaded. why are you so upset all of the time?
                      ok, well anytime I see anything of you, you seem pretty annoyed about something, gf. I *do* feel sorry for you, I didn't say I wanted to FIX you, you seem stuck, not broken.

                      What am I selling? Do you know what free is? "cuz i'd like to give you some of MINE if ya are plumb out... . .
                      • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

                        Tue, August 19, 2008 - 12:57 AM
                        Yep I got some two my own mix n all..... BTW I have badges and T shirts available as well. My cult is equal opportunity though I cannot guarantee that all males will get laid.

                        Lines form to the left.

                        All contributions tax deductible. Cash only small bills satisfaction Guaranteed

                        If I am stuck then she is just too damn tight.

                        JSin
                      • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

                        Tue, August 19, 2008 - 3:47 AM
                        ha li,i - Upset? You're mildly entertaining, you'd be annoying if I took you seriously but I see no reason to do so. This tribe sees many new agey types who come into this tribe with their knickers in a twist and words they don't live up to rolling off their tongue. The fact that you'd clearly like to be annoying and are an admitted attention whore pretty much designates you as a troll. I quite like watching the kids here play with you so hopefully you'll stick around for a while.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

                    Mon, August 18, 2008 - 7:27 AM
                    "Agh, it's shit like THAT that makes me afraid of followers! At least you're honest about it... right... . ."

                    What the fuck does that mean, exactly?
                    If you manage to stay in this tribe more than a couple of weeks I think you'll find that I'm probably not what most people would call a follower. Maybe trolls have a different definition, I don't know.
                    • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

                      Mon, August 18, 2008 - 2:06 PM
                      Dang...My busy summer is keeping from posting much, but the tribe seems to have become self policing for the mosr part. Just wanted to pop my head in and let you know I'm here.

                      Remeber...play nice and be good humans.
                      • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

                        Mon, August 18, 2008 - 3:18 PM
                        "...the tribe seems to have become self policing for the mosr part."

                        Lord of the Flies!!!
                        I have glasses and seem to perpetually be at my "winter weight".
                        Unfortunately I think that makes me Piggy.

                        I guess that's better than having to squeeeeel like a pig in Deliverance...
              • Re: 'Posing' prosaic, are we?

                Tue, August 19, 2008 - 8:38 AM
                You been doing it wrong... You are supposed to be pondering how to get into someone's underwear all day.

                Duh...
                =================================
                shit, thanks for reminding me.
                ya know, i got so caught up in all that pondering, i just don't know where i've been the last couple days.
                what day is it? ah, whatever. where are the panties?!
  • Re: THE DARK SIDE

    Thu, August 28, 2008 - 7:20 AM
    Over the years I have found that if we forget what society, religion and whoever else has influenced your life has said about the dark side, when you come around and accept that it is a part of everyone including yourself then you can stop projecting this part of you out into the world. This would solve so many sociological problems including the war. For the war people are fighting in Iraq, on the streets of america or inside your own head, is due to people denying the dark part of themselves and projecting out their irresponsablitiy of who they really are. Of course these peeps are all distracted and bounded tightly into escapism, the american way. America needs to turn off their fucking TV's and wake up. I accept every dark part of myself. It's what you do with it because when you realize you are a full spectrum of dark and light and wake up to who you are the light is where we want to be. We all want to be loved. It's easy to be dark, deny it and blame someone else and then whin about how bad things are.

    "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
    Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
    It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.
    Your playing small does not serve the world.
    There is nothing enlightened about shrinking
    so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
    We are all meant to shine, as children do."

    Being childlike in the way you experience the world is the answer I am finding on dealing with our darkness. Not childish but with the attitude of newness, spontaneity, excitement to being alive and the mystery of what life unfolds before us. We must drop or ignore all the senseless chatter in our heads and view the world like a child staying present to the moment. Whether the moment is good or bad it is just a moment, a part of the spectrum.
    • Re: THE DARK SIDE

      Wed, October 29, 2008 - 9:05 AM
      Cricket . . .YOU nailed it solid here . . .
      • Re: THE DARK SIDE

        Wed, October 29, 2008 - 11:05 AM
        "How many of you can be ruthlessly HONEST about the DARK SIDE of your character . . . seeing as you are relatively safe to express this . . . What do you hav to say for yourselves . . .???"

        I am going to respond to this because, well...because it's the first thing you've written, Sam=Sam, that actually makes any coherent sense to ME. (I've tried making sense of your other rather prolific posts but my coherency meter tends to shut down after the first few pseudo-sentences).

        So, in response to the first segment of your question, I can't comment on how many of 'us' there are that can be ruthlessly honest about the dark side of 'our' character; I can only comment on myself and whether I can be ruthlessly honest about *it*. The second segment assumes something about 'us'-- which includes me, I think-- that you stated as an objective fact, ..."seeing as you are relatively safe to express this..." when it is completely subjective and not capable of the sort of confirmation one would need in order to validate it as fact. I mean, how is it possible that you've done a meta-analysis on every single EH tribe member and achieved the unfalsifiable conclusion that we ALL feel relatively safe expressing our "dark side"? But, for the sake of time and energy expenditure (on my part) I will attempt to answer it nonetheless though in order to do this I will have to go ahead and treat your assumptions as valid.

        However, before I can go on even one syllable further, I need to know what your assumptions are regarding the term "dark side". You are inferring something here, but I cannot be sure what it is without an actual definition. If the definition is subjective, then the question is also subjective, and that causes the entire premise to be null and void. p & ~p = q v ~q. This is an impossible paradigm, Sam=Sam.
        So, what exactly is a "dark side"? Once I'm clear on your definition, I will do my best to answer your question.

        -K
        • Re: THE DARK SIDE

          Wed, October 29, 2008 - 9:52 PM
          omg k, that is hilarious - and i dont think you meant it to be... (i will assume the logic-stuff is true, since i dont know the notation/theory).

          but, i wonder if he will come and answer your query... i just noticed all the random-tidbits he threw out on multiple threads, and, like your other-friend... i am not inside his head and too lazy to research wth hes talking about...

          just a random-thought... this guy reminds me of the "type" of person who you might find to e "addictive"... if you will, a dark-sider... :-)
          • Re: THE DARK SIDE

            Thu, October 30, 2008 - 7:37 PM
            Thank YOU both for yr comments, and everyone else . . .
            I answered the definition somewhere else.
            But I would say "The dark Side" is a relative thing depending on where the person viewing the Dark Sides, reference point is . . . some of the religious folks have a notion of SIN . . . that I dont identify with, and so on . . .
            Whats yr personal reference point for it in the personal level of who you are . . .! ? ?
            Start there . . .

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