haha - yeah the jokes should start right about now... [blink blink?]
anyways...
ive recently (this past year) been going to naturist resorts more often than i used to. ive gone to nudist resorts and/or beaches for years and years as an occasional fun thing to do, but this year/summer ive been taking it to a whole new level. and hence the question for the peanut-gallery. [aack - the jokes, stop thinking about the jokes...]
feel free to look thru my tribe list/profile - but basically there is a nude beach here in southern california that is due to close down this summer. it is called san onofre. i LOVE going to san onofre - especially this year when i started really "getting into" this naturist lifestyle. i know there are other tribes for these kinds of discussions - so i wont get into the politics of nudity or whatever if yall wont.
[egads harold, too much buildup/sidetrack... just get to the point already...]
i did a nude photo shoot with a semi-pro photographer recently. the photos are now "out there" to be seen/admired. i had a blast at the beach, doing the photos and hanging out with the photographer, and have been an active participant in this whole process. i am not ashamed of what i have done.
the question is - should i PROclaim what ive done? (to others, since it is obvious ive proclaimed it here... duh.)
im not (to the best of my knowledge) an exhibitionist. i do not derive any sort of sexual gratification from posing nude or photography - altho that thought has started to cross my mind recently. namely, streaking could be a fun adrenaline rush... i readily admit to enjoying adrenaline rushes...
ill stop now - having opened the door - and revealed myself to be possibly-naked. the question becomes, what will yall do with the information? what should _I_ do with it?
anyways...
ive recently (this past year) been going to naturist resorts more often than i used to. ive gone to nudist resorts and/or beaches for years and years as an occasional fun thing to do, but this year/summer ive been taking it to a whole new level. and hence the question for the peanut-gallery. [aack - the jokes, stop thinking about the jokes...]
feel free to look thru my tribe list/profile - but basically there is a nude beach here in southern california that is due to close down this summer. it is called san onofre. i LOVE going to san onofre - especially this year when i started really "getting into" this naturist lifestyle. i know there are other tribes for these kinds of discussions - so i wont get into the politics of nudity or whatever if yall wont.
[egads harold, too much buildup/sidetrack... just get to the point already...]
i did a nude photo shoot with a semi-pro photographer recently. the photos are now "out there" to be seen/admired. i had a blast at the beach, doing the photos and hanging out with the photographer, and have been an active participant in this whole process. i am not ashamed of what i have done.
the question is - should i PROclaim what ive done? (to others, since it is obvious ive proclaimed it here... duh.)
im not (to the best of my knowledge) an exhibitionist. i do not derive any sort of sexual gratification from posing nude or photography - altho that thought has started to cross my mind recently. namely, streaking could be a fun adrenaline rush... i readily admit to enjoying adrenaline rushes...
ill stop now - having opened the door - and revealed myself to be possibly-naked. the question becomes, what will yall do with the information? what should _I_ do with it?
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Thu, July 17, 2008 - 6:50 AMWhom are you questioning whether to share this info with, and why the hell *wouldn't* you? Maybe by sharing the info more freely, you'll find some friends who like to frolic au naturel, too. It's really not such a big deal these days, and with those to whom it *is* a big deal it's fun to watch them writhe in uncomfortableness. I'm guessing work, for example, might not be a great place to share, though.
Nekkidness is fun, and you're not doing anything that is immoral or illegal (although that stuff is fun, too). Assuming you're not playing of the nude volleyball at your neighborhood playground. -
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Thu, July 17, 2008 - 10:41 AMUm, Harold, the fact you go to nude beaches and such isn't exactly all that earth shaking a revelation.
You and thousands of other folks do that.
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 7:33 AM>>>not earth-shaking
yeah, i recognize the commonness of it, and most of my friends know that i do this. altho, to be fair, i do not think ive mentioned it to any of my currently-alive family inparticular.
one aspect of the photo-shoot that IS disturbing to me tho - is that for a few shots i got "excited". this is also natural and ok at the beach (on occasion, and we were there for many hours), but not something that is normally photographed without some sort of prurient interest involved... (and trust me, THAT aspect is not something id care to brag about - actually, im a bit embarrassed about it - even tho i recognize it was natural...)
i was actually too timid to even log back into tribe for a couple of days... i definitely having "something" going on that is causing me not to be too forthcoming about my adventure. otoh, i DO want to blog about it and "remember the story" (if not share it with others who might be contemplating what it is like for themselves) for some reason....
sigh, internal conflicts... arent they the best? lol... btw - thanx for commenting, it means a lot to me that yall took the time. hugs, h. -
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 10:17 AMone aspect of the photo-shoot that IS disturbing to me tho - is that for a few shots i got "excited".<<<
Did the photographer promise you ice cream if you stood still and didn't fidget? Maybe a pony ride?
Or are you maybe really actually bragging some?
Cause that is most definitely a bit TMI.. IMO.
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 1:10 PMnot bragging, warning... if i were to let folks know where to find me, yes - it would be a little bit TMI for my tastes... thats part (all?) of the problem... (trust me - i have nothing to brag about - ive seen plenty of guys and i will never be a porn star)
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 7:27 AM>>>whom and why?
no - im not playing naked volleyball at schoolgrounds. in fact, i was visiting my good friends yesterday (who have young kids and a pool) and rather than going swimming naked, i wore a suit (out of respect for the kids and their mom).
actually, i HAVE found friends to hang-out-nude (HON) with, so thats not really an issue - altho i guess by "popularizing" myproclivities, i might make more friends...
so let me think - the whom i was concerned about was myspace folks (where i typically do my few blogs). im not particularly "known" as a naturist there - and it is a bit more "public" than i would normally feel comfortable about it. it is not work, of course, but nowadays HR people do look up new employees on myspace to see if they can find out useful info.
the why-not had more to do with this weird feeling of bragging vs humility i think. im normally a reasonably humble person. (cue the laughter) if i were to post a blog about this id be essentially pointing to myself and saying "look at ME". and theres something about that attitude that is NOT really me. it is a weird feeling... im proud of the photos cuz they came out good - but i dont like bragging.
yup - i think it is mostly about the bragging... hmmm... thanx for asking me those questions - i was having difficulty trying to figure out what it was that was bothering me... :-) -
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Sat, July 26, 2008 - 2:39 PMactually, i HAVE found friends to hang-out-nude (HON) with, so thats not really an issue - altho i guess by "popularizing" myproclivities, i might make more friends...
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To be honest, it seems like this is what you are aiming to do. There's no reason to 'popularize' it otherwise. You are who are you are and you do what you do. That should be sufficient, as long as you know your reasons for doing so. -
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 1:08 AMthank you ali - that IS what i am (now that im thinking semi-clearly) most interested in doing. and that brings up my uncomfortableness with blogging about it on myspace - which is not the location that i care to be making more friends at. theres a more-appropriate site that i frequent where i should do this blogging (assuming i still feel like it) to make-more-friends to HON with.
again, thanx. i knew the emotion was not bragging, but it was something - and that something was that i wanted to parlay my "popularity" into making more friends. cool. -
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Tue, August 12, 2008 - 5:48 PMthank you ali - that IS what i am (now that im thinking semi-clearly) most interested in doing. and that brings up my uncomfortableness with blogging about it on myspace - which is not the location that i care to be making more friends at. theres a more-appropriate site that i frequent where i should do this blogging (assuming i still feel like it) to make-more-friends to HON with.
again, thanx. i knew the emotion was not bragging, but it was something - and that something was that i wanted to parlay my "popularity" into making more friends. cool.
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Um. Okay. That's not what l was saying. lt feels like you were trying to make more friends. That's not the way to do it. Your nudity doesn't make you special. Your personality might, on the other hand. -
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Today, 12:56 AM>>>i wanted to parlay my "popularity" into making more friends.
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Um. Okay. That's not what l was saying. lt feels like you were trying to make more friends. That's not the way to do it. Your nudity doesn't make you special. Your personality might, on the other hand.
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hmmm - well, i guess we can just disagree. my _popularity_ due to the nudity DID make me special. thats the classic 15 mins of fame scenario. i grant you that it is not a _lasting_ specialness, and that my personality (or whatever else) will be the true-test of whether i make "real" new friends out of the situation. however, i DO believe that (as an introduction) my popularity had some cachet for awhile.
as it turns out, i never did get around to blogging about it. i DID repost some of the pics (with acknowledgements to the photographer) and they have indeed caused me to become more "popular" among the nudists that i encounter who have seen them.
i live in lala land (socal) where image is almost more important than substance in many cases. thus, having a popularity is a useful tool in most social circles i encounter. again, it is only a "get in the door" utility. however once inside - then i can express myself and make real friends based on real interactions. as a moderately-shy (in person) dude, this has been an eye-opening and useful process.
im not sure if i would recommend the exercise to everyone - but i am/was actually quite "real" with the fact that i enjoy/ed my nudity. the photos were an expression of my joy. the fact that they made me popular (for awhile) was a useful side-effect. once past the initial social-stigma i had placed on myself - my personality is/was able to shine thru to those who see/saw me and want/ed to become a friend. also, it gave me a confidence to engage with those folks that i thought would be interesting to be friends with, as well.
for instance, i have not been on tribe most of this month because i am out making friends and doing things in the Real World (tm). many of these activities are centered around my naturism - and it is quite the enjoyable process. altho - like everything - i have also encountered some not-so-great situations. however, overall id rate it as a positive...
again, thanx for taking the time to help me think thru some of these thoughts. we might not agree (or i could be completely misunderstanding you - and if so, i apologize) on everything, but here (like on the beach) i try to be "naked" with my honesty.
hugs, harold.
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 3:08 PMOK I'll come clean -- honestly, I am not an exhibitionist and I do not enjoy being naked, even during sex. When sexing I prefer to have at least a t-shirt & socks on. I know this is unusual and people may think I'm a freak because of it, but whatever, I just feel like I had to get it off my chest. -
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 3:24 PM(((quandary))) too funny ! youre not a freak - altho i think ill reserve some partial-judgment for what "sexing" involves. lol id suggest turning up the heat in your home/apt and maybe you wont want to be "clothed" the next time... lol. ;-) -
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 5:28 PMI wear a full body suit made of bubble wrap and duct tape at all times with an air tube providing me with life giving organic imported air from the mountains of Bhutan. -
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 5:31 PMpictures, we want pictures !!!! lol
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 6:30 PMok - ive changed my profile photo for a little while (maybe a week?) to show what i mean. this photo actually did not make the "cut" for the final set. hence it doesnt have a studio watermark on it... so - am i bragging? maybe, but only because i think the PHOTOs are cool - i didnt think i looked particularly attractive until he focussed his lens and made me "look good" for the shoot. -
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Sun, July 20, 2008 - 7:07 AMtechnically, im a member of the most-relevant (to me) tribe: tribes.tribe.net/nudesanonofre
whats your point? am i supposed to peruse all these tribes and decide whether any of them MIGHT provide me with some perspective? i already "know" yall right here and thought id ask for some thoughts from people i can trust...
if these tribes DO have something relevant to say (iyo), then please point me to specific posts or tell me to buzz off from here on this subject. -
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Sun, July 20, 2008 - 9:16 AMa simple "thank you" would suffice.. -
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Thu, July 24, 2008 - 2:33 PM
Next thing, you'll be announcing you're running for a government office,
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Thu, July 24, 2008 - 4:14 PMim old enough now that i know approximately what i will be doing-with-my-life, and public office is NOT on the agenda... lol. besides, i dont consider it a "sordid" past - and if others do, then it is totally THEIR issue. i refuse to feel humiliated by these photos. i might be uncomfortable in certain social situations - but not to the point of humiliation. it is sorta like being ticklish. theres really no "fun" in it for the ticklers when the ticklee decides that it is ok to be touched...
ok, unless they decide to physically-harm me which then becomes MY issue too...
oddly, the website that these got posted to - has now got a new person to admire. so i am no longer the "star" and can safely go back to whatever i was doing. my 15 mins of fame are over - and the photos themselves are out there (digitally) for all time. it is all cool. ive kinda made my peace with it.
i might still decide to blog about it - but the NEED to do so for my emotional resolution and/or the titillation-factor while i was in-the-spotlight is kinda over. ill prolly still leave this profile photo up for a little while longer - but then ill go back to my deceased-puppy-avatar...
if yall still have thoughts about this, feel free to chime in - im still here/thinking about it. hugs, h.
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