That's the one where we celebrate the chocolate rabbits that helped move the boulder out of the way so that zombie Jesus could stalk out into the glow of the yellow sun and regain his super powers, right?
Come on now, everyone knows it was the pagan goddess Eostre who moved that stone...not chocolate rabbits.
Silly rabbits. Tricks are for messiah's.
-K
(from my blog)
Come on now, everyone knows it was the pagan goddess Eostre who moved that stone...not chocolate rabbits.
Silly rabbits. Tricks are for messiah's.
-K
(from my blog)
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Re: Easter
Sun, March 23, 2008 - 4:22 PMMeh, pretty much all the religions or beliefs borrow something from some other belief system. Even the ancient ones probably borrowed from some even more ancient ones that we just don't know about. Who can say where any of it really started? I don't practice any of it so whatever makes people happy is fine with me. -
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Re: Easter
Sun, March 23, 2008 - 7:45 PMI think if you look to the ancient religions you likely will find some level of universality in celebrating the changes in the seasons which in essence what Easter is. It really is not so much an issue of one ripping another off <though really the Xians straight up ripped off holiday timings from religions they claimed to despise and later persecute>
Regardless I would be willing to wage folks in the far east also have festival days this time of year though they had almost no contact with the European world till far later.
My folks by the way are celebrating easter by having the traditional Easter Bunny. This year it is Hasenpheffer.
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Sun, March 23, 2008 - 8:00 PMI like to think that Eostre or Oestara is a Shakti/goddess energy or frequency.
It is natural that every culture would find some way to honor this time of year (in both hemispheres).
It is our own Mother Earth who defines this frequency; it is culture that creates their own interpretive ritual around this frequency.
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Re: Easter
Sun, March 23, 2008 - 9:17 PMI think it can be an over simplification to say the Christians ripped off other religions. Often times it wasn't so much a matter of ripping off. Don't get me wrong I am not about to defend the Christians because they have done some heinous stuff but sometimes ancient traditions got blended into the Christians ones because the Christian conquerers were simply unable to get the people to let go of them. People often cherished their traditions and kept them going even if they converted to christianity. Sometimes the Christian monks and priest used this to their advantage but sometimes the people's traditions were so ingrained that there was no way to get people to let them go. This happened with the Greeks as well. That is one of the reasons Zeus had so many women. Every time they conquered a new region they would blend Zeus's tales in with whatever god was the most powerful there and he would take whatever consort that god had as one of his own. -
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Sun, March 23, 2008 - 10:25 PMIn general I have no problem with the integration and blending of religions. Far East thought is a good example of this influence.
What bugs me about the Xian rip off is the arrogance they place concerning their one twoo god and the merit they place on the ficticious accounts of his actions.
To put the bible up as the word of god then fail to follow it is hypocrisy of the highest degree and the zeal in which they went after and ultimately destroyed much of the culture of these ancient beliefs.
If it is the real dope then why do they need to cut it with the festivals and traditions of the older religions?
Reason politics, land, power and money.
Hmm didn't that Jesus dude have some problems concerning those same motives... Something about a temple and stuff.
JSin
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Sun, March 23, 2008 - 10:50 PM<<If it is the real dope then why do they need to cut it with the festivals and traditions of the older religions?
Reason politics, land, power and money. >>
True in many ways. Politics, land, power and money motivated most of their actions but I do think sometimes the "cutting" was done by the people themselves (through their desire to hold onto their ancient traditions) and not completely by the institution.
There are actually plenty of Christians who completely dislike things like the easter bunny and santa claus because of the pagan origins. -
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Mon, March 24, 2008 - 11:08 AM"I was over in Australia during easter, which was intersting. Interesting to note they celebrate Easter the same way we do; commemorating the death and resurrection of Jesus by telling our children a giant bunny rabbit, left chocolate eggs in the night.
Now, I wonder why we’re fucked up as a race, anybody? Anybody got any clues out there?
Where do you get this shit from you know? Why those two things you know? Why not ‘Goldfish left Lincoln Logs in your sock drawer’ you know? As long as we’re making shit up, go hog wild you know. At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on it's back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous conotation to it.
'Mummy, I woke today and there was a Lincoln Log in me sock drawer!'
'That's the story of Jesus'.
Who comes up with this shit?! I’ve read the Bible. I can’t find the words ‘bunny’ or ‘chocolate’ anywhere in that fucking book".
--Bill Hicks
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Re: Easter
Mon, March 24, 2008 - 11:19 AMWHAT?!?!
you mean this day isn't just about celebrating that one fabulous
rabbit that has the incomprehensible gift of being able to lay delicious
chocolate eggs?????
my belief system is shattered.
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Re: Easter
Mon, March 24, 2008 - 11:19 AMMarpa said: "Why not ‘Goldfish left Lincoln Logs in your sock drawer’ you know? As long as we’re making shit up, go hog wild you know."
Remember Festivus? Now there's a holiday. Very winterish, though. Not at all springy.
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Sat, April 5, 2008 - 11:08 AM> To put the bible up as the word of god then fail to follow it
Thank god they do fail to follow it though, eh JSin? Otherwise a hell of a lot of us would have been stoned to death or smited in other fashion for various sins of coveting, adultery, or wandering about with uncovered heads or eating rabbits!
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Re: Easter
Sat, April 5, 2008 - 10:28 AMI thought zombie Jesus came out to find the chocolate eggs? Didn't the Tooth Fairie move the boulders?
And why isn't Santa in all the Christian manger scenes? I'm sure he must have brought Jesus a new toy for Christmas?
This makes me wonder: What is Easter/Eostre like if one lives south of the equator? Easter would be at the beginning of fall down there. I've never been south of the equator, but I wonder if religions that originated in that part of the world have similar traditions. They would have to be appropriate to their seasons, I imagine. Just a thought.
