anti-EH drama spreads!

topic posted Thu, December 4, 2008 - 10:56 AM by  Fifi
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If you happen to be bored and want a bit of sunshine in your life or a bit of trolleric reading watching sunshine try to take over a science tribe (!).....

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sunshine - "cunt is appropriate for you... IMO... Don't like it .... move back to extreme honesty... you can handle it there... Oh, and Extreme Honesty refugees tribe, will not accept either of you, just so you are clear. :)"

The threat that I wouldn't be accepted into tribe refugees and the "insult" that I could handle extreme honesty (while she can't) was so funny I had to post it!

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Fifi
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  • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

    Thu, December 4, 2008 - 11:07 AM
    If anyone has ever learned anything, it's not to engage Sunshine over anything on any level. I personally think that all her content-free attention-whoring on the several tribes I've seen her do it is a result of some rather catastrophic disability. Kinda sad, really.
    • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

      Thu, December 4, 2008 - 11:27 AM
      Anne - That's possible. It's also possible she's just an alt promoting pseudoscientific quackery for profit by pretending to be a really stupid but generically California hot blond who doesn't speak English well. Generally I wouldn't bother with sunshine but I'm getting a bit sick of the concerted efforts to provoke me or get me booted by her and cathyq and, in this case, promote pseudoscience for profit in a science tribe.

      Apparently they blame me for tribe being less busy than it was before!!! Who knew I had so much power and influence! (I'm being entirely sarcastic here, I am not deluded enough to think I'm anything but just another person who frequents tribe).
      • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

        Thu, December 4, 2008 - 11:32 AM
        Well, she claims Dutchery, so there ya go. You know what they say bout the Dutch.

        And I have blamed you for everything fifi, for a long time.
        • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

          Thu, December 4, 2008 - 11:38 AM
          It's true. Elaine is always telling people how it's Fifi's fault the servers are so often down. Calls her the "Horrible Exception".
          • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

            Thu, December 4, 2008 - 11:42 AM
            And then I beat Anne. Also your fault, Fifi.
            • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

              Thu, December 4, 2008 - 11:49 AM
              This is exactly why we need to keep pestering Tribe.net about putting in the ignore this person or killfiles on this site. Am opportunity to just be able to ignore a person's posts in theactual threads or tribes instead of just with PM will be one of the greatest things ever on this site.

              • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                Thu, December 4, 2008 - 12:01 PM
                >>This is exactly why we need to keep pestering Tribe.net about putting in the ignore this person or killfiles on this site. Am opportunity to just be able to ignore a person's posts in theactual threads or tribes instead of just with PM will be one of the greatest things ever on this site.<<

                see, i'm doubtful about that.

                aside from the fact that people should be able to skip posts and threads posted
                by people they don't like all on their own,

                i can see it now
                - people asking tons of questions based on others peoples responses to
                the ignored poster.
                - people put on ignore figure it out and go on a spree of shit talking and
                indirect flaming of the ignorer
                - general confusion because the ignored posts something pertinent
                to the thread discussion
                - etc.

                • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                  Thu, December 4, 2008 - 12:18 PM
                  thank you wild. exactly well said. just as we "counsel" the trolls to ignore posts that would inflame them - we should be able to ignore trolls who inflame us. unless, of course, we are deriving something from the inflammation... lol (heehee - some really bad hemorrhoids joke applies i think, but im unable to make one that would relate to martyrs - the joke-du-jour)
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                    Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                    Thu, December 4, 2008 - 12:39 PM
                    also,

                    if you moderate any public or moderated tribes,
                    should you have anyone on ignore?

                    it seems counterproductive.
                • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                  Thu, December 4, 2008 - 1:15 PM
                  Actually, Wild, it works quite well on some other forums that have this feature. Like fark.com for example.
                  Of course, it doesn't contain all the flame wars, but it does give you the ability to clean up threads from trolls, hijackers and just plain infuriating people who should DIAF and ohmygodwhywonttheyshutup people. Sometimes, someone just is that annoying and in rl you might leave the room they were in. Why should we not have that choice in the cyber world too?

                  So I do think it will be useful, if one would choose to use this feature on occasion. I would just use it for the extreme cases myself.


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                    Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                    Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:21 PM
                    I've been in forums where the ignore function works like a charm, it can be very effective. Not sure if it would work as well on tribe but it probably would be a good way to deal with the trollishness of tribe in general. Plus, then people who hate me could put me on ignore and wouldn't have to get upset reading my posts. Tribe would have to get way less buggy first though!
        • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

          Thu, December 4, 2008 - 11:48 AM
          They have stinky ovens.....?

          It's true, I AM god. Now leave me alone, I have...um...god things to do. Like make my martyrs suffer for me.
  • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

    Thu, December 4, 2008 - 12:36 PM
    Nice. Isn't Sunshine the crazy chick that thank God for keeping her alive while she drove drunk and didn't get busted? I'm losing track of the crackpots!!
    • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

      Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:07 PM
      Josh - Nah, she was the one who was in cahoots with "."/!Alex!/350ppm or is them both or whatever nuttiness is going on. Maybe she is suffering from some form of neurodegenerative disease or some such but if she is she needs to see a real doctor and get treated not go around selling other people quack "cures". My take on it is she's an alt and a troll - she walks and quacks like one. But this is the internets so we'll never know (unless someone has met sunshine in person).

      It's all pretty retarded but it is highly entertaining when gems like "we won't let you into the anti-EH tribe" are thrown out as a threat.
      • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

        Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:10 PM
        <<My take on it is she's an alt and a troll - she walks and quacks like one. >>

        I hate to tell you but she lives in my neighborhood and I am 95% sure I have met her in real life. She is a troll but unfortunately she isn't faking the craziness. That is what she is really like.
      • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

        Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:10 PM
        >>My take on it is she's an alt and a troll<<

        nope, she's real.
        • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

          Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:17 PM
          Wow! Real you say.... Wow! She seems like such a parody/embodiment of all that is new age ridiculousness that I thought she had to be fake. Hmmm, to be honest, I feel no remorse about responding to her in kind because she goes out of her way to be a troll. I will keep this in mind in my future dealings with her though so thanks for letting me know.
          • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

            Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:23 PM
            not sure why that's so strange

            i've found the most problematic people on Tribe to be "real"
            and not alts/trolls.
            • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

              Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:33 PM
              wild - I've met some really, really flaky people in my life into new agey stuff (and some of them are my good friends) but sunshine is so over the top and such a cliché of passive aggressive new age evangelism that it's hard for me to even picture her as a real crazy person. Team her up with "."/!Alex!/350ppm and the little nest of fervent EH haters, and it just seemed more likely that she was an alt to me.
              • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:42 PM
                i don't know about passive aggressive new age evangelism.

                all i see her doing is flooding tribes with incoherent gibberish
                and inflammatory bullshit.

                and doing it at an average daily rate of a post every 2 minutes for 8 - 10 hours straight.
            • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

              Fri, December 5, 2008 - 9:32 AM
              >>i've found the most problematic people on Tribe to be "real"
              and not alts/trolls<<

              While being "real" means they aren't an alt, it doesn't stop them from being a troll at all.
              • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                Fri, December 5, 2008 - 9:35 AM
                Yes, the most annoying trolls are often real people. One does not need to be an alt to be a troll.
                • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                  Fri, December 5, 2008 - 10:17 AM
                  >>One does not need to be an alt to be a troll.<<

                  that's what i meant

                  i also thing the term "troll" is WAY overused.
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                    Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                    Fri, December 5, 2008 - 11:07 AM
                    wild - "i also thing the term "troll" is WAY overused."

                    Totally. People tend to call anyone who disagrees with them or they get into a personality war with a troll. Sure we all accumulate some fans but people who just don't like someone and make snide remarks once in a while when paths cross isn't really a troll (in my books at least). Being a bit old school, to me a troll is someone whose sole agenda is to disrupt a particular message board (or, in this case, tribe) or stalk an individual by disrupting their online activity. There are professional trolls (though in the world of online marketing that's not what negative campaigning is called, ditto for in politics) and then there are the bored teenagers and crazy people.
                    • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                      Fri, December 5, 2008 - 11:42 AM
                      I remember when trolling just meant you were using LSD and ecstasy at the same time... I miss the good old days!
                      • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                        Fri, December 5, 2008 - 11:47 AM
                        quel - That sounds like way more fun!
                        • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                          Fri, December 5, 2008 - 2:39 PM
                          Fifi- I never did it myself but once I came home to my roommie and his gf doing it. They put a behavior disclaimer warning on the front door and when I came in, I heard them scurry into his room. A few minutes later, they emerged and admitted they were in my room trying on all my clothes. Back in those days I didn't wear anything that wasn't shiny, fuzzy or both and brightly colored. I can't even imagine what they must have been experiencing.
                          • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                            Fri, December 5, 2008 - 2:49 PM
                            quel - That's a hilarious story! High people can be so cute. I'm guessing their experience was along the lines of ooohhhhhahhhhhhhoooooooooohhhhhhaahaahaaahahhahhahahahahahahah....shiny........soooooooooft......ooooohahhahahaha. But quietly or at least trying to be quiet. Personally I really don't like touching fun fur when I'm high but I'm really picky about how fabrics feel even when I'm not high (some synthetics literally make me break out in hives).
                      • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                        Fri, December 5, 2008 - 12:52 PM
                        We used to call that candy flipping.
                        • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                          Fri, December 5, 2008 - 2:37 PM
                          It's always interesting to hear how drug terminology differ regionally. All mine is from FL and back in the day, a tweaker was just someone acting irrationally. I had no idea it was connected to drug use until I came out here. Meth hadn't gotten there yet. I digress...
                          • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                            Fri, December 5, 2008 - 9:05 PM
                            what about hippie flipping? that's the best. shrooms & E.
                            • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                              Sat, December 6, 2008 - 8:50 AM
                              Yes, a much better trip than candy flipping. Although these days half a glass of wine is about all I do.
                              • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                                Sat, December 6, 2008 - 10:58 AM
                                I like to party still on occasion, but I like sobriety pretty well too these days.
                                Probably cause I am not running from the voices so much any more...;-)
                                • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                                  Sat, December 6, 2008 - 11:53 AM
                                  I felt really old at an Ambient Mafia party last night where NO-ONE was visibly on drugs (besides alcohol & pot). We were all just there to dance! It was awesome, but made me remember back in my younger days when a party like that would have looked a little different. Had a great time.
                                  • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                                    Sat, December 6, 2008 - 12:34 PM
                                    I just have too much to do to take the time to recover anymore. Hangovers are bad enough.
                                    Being on drugs in LA seems so cliche as well. I can't imagine where would be a good place to trip out without a road trip preceding it.
                                  • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                                    Sat, December 6, 2008 - 12:48 PM
                                    When I was pregnant I was still going to local Burning Man gatherings in Santa Cruz that would take place in a beach up there. I was one of the few sober people. It was very interesting watching everyone else party it up while being sober. I actually had some of my best times with that crowd when I was completely sober even if they weren't. One time it was actually handy that I was because one of the guys was freaking out a bit and for whatever reasons my pregnant mama vibe calmed him down and he let me talk to him quietly for a while until he was in a good place again.
                                • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                                  Sat, December 6, 2008 - 2:37 PM
                                  Noooooooo Elaine~ don't do it....don't listen to the voices! Don't go into the light! Stay away from the burny rays emanating from that big round thing in the sky, you've SEEN what happens when people go into the light!!!

                                  Personally I really enjoy being straight around all my very high friends (very drunk friends when straight, not as much). I get the contact, dancing and love highs with less recuperation required. Doesn't mean I don't like party favors sometimes but it's got to be the right occasion...and then the drugs seem kind of unnecessary these days.
              • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

                Fri, December 5, 2008 - 9:40 AM
                Well all trolls are real people unless the Trollbot 3000 has come to fruition and I just don't know about it. Though,come to think of it, it wouldn't be that hard to create one!
  • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

    Thu, December 4, 2008 - 1:26 PM
    Yay! I am so fucking famous I even get talked about in that tribe!

    Sunshine has a girl crush on me! *nah nah nah nah nah*

    Hahahaha!
    • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

      Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:11 PM
      Yuni - You are teh queen of teh internets!!! And, yes, it appears that Sunshine does have a special affection for you too.
      • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

        Thu, December 4, 2008 - 2:35 PM
        I wonder how she would react if there were an anti-Sunshine tribe...
        • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

          Thu, December 4, 2008 - 3:46 PM
          <<I wonder how she would react if there were an anti-Sunshine tribe...>>

          Like any troll, that would be the ultimate gratification of her efforts. A New Year's Eve-type return on her efforts. Personally, I prefer to reward trolls with total disinterest.
          • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

            Thu, December 4, 2008 - 3:51 PM
            Like how we enjoy the warm gratification of having an anti- Eh tribe out there.
            • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

              Thu, December 4, 2008 - 4:09 PM
              Well, I personally enjoy (to some extent) any time somebody so appalled by what I stand for - which is almost always characterized by its support of liberalism, not oppression - that they feel compelled to be against it in an organized way.

              Back in my punk rock days, I relished any time people were visibly affronted by my sporting a mohawk or spiked combat boots rather than the Gloria Vanderbilt jeans and feathered hair that was the norm at the time. What I found satisfying was that their frustration at not being able to control my appearance by appealing to my desire to "fit in", which of course made me seek out new ways to challenge their dictates.

              And, while there is NO shortage of belief systems which I oppose (and openly mock), I don't waste much of my time participating in organized groups protesting the popularity of, say, Celine Dion or the "formal shorts" fashion you see all over the red carpets. I may think they're dorks, but I've got better things to do with my time than joining a tribe called "Celine Dion Sucks!" and whining along with a bunch of sycophants.
          • ignore / killfiles and hammers...

            Thu, December 4, 2008 - 4:13 PM
            wow - it seems that yall definitely need to do some "venting" regarding sunshine and/or alex...

            i dont really know either of them that well (tho i have sunshine as an e-friend here), but apparently they must do something that ticks yall off a lot. since i dont frequent the tribes listed so far (and honestly do not have an interest in wandering into a flame-fest), ill just have to take yalls word about the newage... tis a shame since evangelizing of any sort (newage, eh, xtian, muslim, mormon, jehovah, whatever...) is kinda annoying.

            [egads, if someone decides to riff off my choice-of-religions... puhlease... it was just random, not some attempt to instigate, ok? jeez. my goal is to point out that EVERY evangelizing is annoying, whether your-choice of religion is in-this-list or not...]

            in such a case, i guess it would indeed be useful to have a "killfile" type of function.

            theres the old expression that "when youve only got a hammer, everything looks like a nail" which i originally would apply - to using an ignore/killfile approach. but the corollary expression also applies - namely "if all youve got are wrenches and you want to pound in a nail, a hammer would be kinda handy".

            seriously, while tools are useful and all - theres an element of self-sufficiency that can be expected in life. i just cannot (now) decide which way i would "vote" for a killfile function. i guess i would vote FOR it (better to have a tool and not use it, than to _not have_ a tool and need it) even tho im not sure i "like" the way that the tool might be used...

            at the risk of fanning-a-flame, i could make the analogy that a killfile function is like a nuclear bomb. it is not the bombs fault that it eradicates xxxxxx, but rather the way that it is "used" by people. or, to be a little lighter - it is not the handguns' fault, it is the fault of the murderer who uses it to kill... or even lighter - it is not the hammers' fault...

            carrying the analogy to an extreme... while a hammer (or other more-destructive tool) is useful for its primary purpose (of pounding in nails), there is always the side-effects that occur (like black-thumbnails from mis-aligned poundings)... hmmm...

            just some random "food for thought" to hopefully get yall to realize that "bashing" on sunshine here inside eh - is basically a zero-sum process. of course, if it makes yall feel-better to vent, thats cool. ill now try to ignore this thread - altho i must admit a morbid-curiosity to keep-looking at it... lol.
  • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

    Fri, December 5, 2008 - 7:00 AM
    Wow, that's pretty spectacular. The new "moderator" has deleted the thread where sunshine says all this stuff but is now allowing cathyq to claim I said things that I never did in another thread (cathyq has always struck me as a real person, the fact that she's mimicing sunshine doesn't surprise me). The moderator could just kick me out of the tribe or ask people to stop threatening to stick things in my vagina but I guess that would be acting like a moderator!!! Did the dude volunteer to be moderator because he's actually king of the trolls?

    I see one of the lurkers/participating audience who never participated as a tribe member who appeared to comment there has also now appeared here. Welcome.
    • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

      Fri, December 5, 2008 - 7:33 AM
      "...ask people to stop threatening to stick things in my vagina..."

      If I had a vagina I would keep my valuables in it on the rare occasion that I managed to leave the house...
      • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

        Fri, December 5, 2008 - 8:08 AM
        Josh - Well, yes, one's own valuables may be safely stashed in one's vagina (a most useful ploy on occasion) but I do draw the line at angry and apparently crazy people who threaten to violent stick things in one's orifices with the intent to cause physical harm (let alone letting them have long term storage rights!). I have much better uses for my vagina (and assorted girl bits) and it would interfere with my quest to improve upon my numbers in the realm of the multiple orgasm. You've got to feel sad for any woman who threatens to sexually assault another woman simply because she doesn't like her.

        I must say, I'm find these kinds of threats used in a decidedly political way in an attempt to oppress any women are particularly poignant at the moment for me because I'm in the midst of talking to some friends to figure out what we can do to help the women in Africa who are having things - like guns, knives, sticks and anything at hand that can do interior physical damage - stuck into their vaginas as a means to enact political oppression and destroy families and culture. If people want to know what genocide is, this is it. It's not only destruction of individual people, it's a concerted effort to destroy a particular culture as well by destroying families and social networks that are the repositories of culture.

        www.stephenlewisfoundation.org/ne...cfm
        shakespearessister.blogspot.com/20...tml
    • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

      Fri, December 5, 2008 - 8:15 AM
      I find it funny that Sunshine made a really big stink in the Politics tribe because someone told her to stick something in her cunt but feels perfectly comfortable saying the same thing to whomever she wishes.




      On a personal note, I'm actually a bit amused when someone gets to the point where they are calling me a cunt or telling me what to do with mine. It usually means I've gotten to them and they have nothing clever to say.
      • Re: anti-EH drama spreads!

        Fri, December 5, 2008 - 8:40 AM
        Yuni - Well I suspect sunshine just mimics other people, which is also what cathyq does (in this case mimicking/being sunshine). That's part of what made me think she was an alt as well as a troll, the copying others and lack of originality makes her such a cliché that there's little individuality or personality. Maybe that's their big issue with peeps here (and no doubt elsewhere), most of us have pretty big personalities and a solid sense of self and our personal power (or so it seems to me anyway) - both here and, I'd suspect, in RL. We know our own minds, so to speak. I can see how that would be infuriating for people who've lost their minds!

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