destiny?
isn't that the name of someone's pet unicorn?

I would like to posit that without any votes 'destiny' would have been much different.
I guess we can all just rest easy and stop making any effort to do anything? I think that we cannot prove destiny even if it does exist. If it is destiny, we were also destined to vote so destiny could prevail.

I can kinda see your point, I am a big believer in the absence of control in it's commonly perceived form. The difference is that I believe in such a lack of control that I also don't believe in some greater plan. I tend to believe that belief in a plan is a way to justify things we do or do not like. The bad things are merely a precursor to the good things, the good things are all part of the plan. The danger in this thought is that it can cause people to become complacent.

In any event, it was part of a plan. It was Obama's plan and the plan of everyone who voted for him and supported his efforts to attain the presidency. Plans are nothing without action.

Yeah, fuck it all. Let's just become Lotus Eaters.

www.pissedoffcat.com/index.html

I don't believe it for a moment. For me I am the master of my fate and I pay the price for my decisions. I am active in politics. I change peoples minds and I act on a local level.

Sure on the national level you may feel very small. But in the larger scope of things individuals do make a difference.

Perhaps your own self esteem makes you feel small. Perhaps you are a small waste of carbon. That is your business.

Think about this though.. the election of 2004 was lost on an average of 3 votes per precinct.

How will it end in the end? The universe will run out of fuel entropy will exert it's force the universe will cool and we will become a cold universe. As for God... He's dead. We killed him long ago. Nietzsche announced it in the late 1800's. What we have now is simply the realm of our making.

Please feel free to feel as ya do. The Corperatists want you to... Mindless drones to carry out their wanton orgy of profit taking.

As for me. I am not a sheep. I do not follow and I try to make change. I hope others do though I acknowledge that most are incapable of it.

So please do not vote, do not act but for the sake of the world at large... SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Live in your world of apatyhy but do not drag down those that in time will make the changes you enjoy.

I am happy to live in a nation that brave men and women decided they could make a difference. Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Patrick Henry, Alexander Hamiton, James Madison, Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Susan B Anthony, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Dwight D Eisenhower, Martin Luther King, The Weathermen, Ken Kesey, Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson, Cesar Chavez, The list goes on... All people that refused to be complacent. All people that never gave up.

It is not all fate... It is hard fucking work pain loss and energy

JSin

Is it fate or destiny or karma that compelled me to log in just to tell you that this is a silly, ignorant stance to take?

I think yes!

Keee-RIST, somebody's been watching the Matrix trilogy too much.

The problem with not being involved in politics is that you may be governed by someone less intelligent than yourself. I mean look at the current president ......

It is good to question the system though .... At least in my opinion. So if you go to you tube and type in esoteric agendas and watch a few of the 13 part series you might learn some things you may or may not want to know.

So my question to you all is would you rather know more of the deep dark secrets? Or live blindly believing what you see on the news, or in the paper, or on CNN, or Fox News?

Thank you all for your posts. Quite the interesting reading. :)