This is a tribe for people who STRIVE FOR complete honesty

topic posted Thu, November 13, 2008 - 7:10 PM by  Sam=Sam
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Oh . . . I get it now . . . A work in progress group hey??

strive (strv)
intr.v. strove (strv), striv·en (strvn) or strived, striv·ing, strives
1. To exert much effort or energy; endeavor.
2. To struggle or fight forcefully; contend: strive against injustice.
[Middle English striven, from Old French estriver, from estrit, estrif, quarrel; see strife.]
striver n.
striving·ly adv.

2. To struggle or fight forcefully . . .WELL, A LOAD OF PEOPLE IN THIS TRIBE DO THAT . . . including me.
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  • Ok Sam I get it

    Martyr
    1mar·tyr Listen to the pronunciation of 1martyr
    Pronunciation:
    \ˈmär-tər\
    Function:
    noun
    Etymology:
    Middle English, from Old English, from Late Latin, from Greek martyr-, martys witness
    Date:
    before 12th century

    1: a person who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty of witnessing to and refusing to renounce a religion2: a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle3: victim ; especially : a great or constant sufferer <a martyr to asthma all his life — A. J. Cronin>
    • there's no such thing as complete honesty, sam, & your egotripping bullshit is getting really fucking boring.
      • Yeah, it really is kind of boring.
        Man, I remember back in the good old days the crazies who used to drop in had the common courtesy to be somewhat entertaining. It's like these new whipper snappers barely even try anymore.
          • Holy godforsaken ew.
            • Well...if people are never completely honest, then when are they extremely honest? Only here? Anywhere? So, then...this whole thing is like ego stroking, i.e. (I am cool because I am in EH?)

              I have noticed with corporate exclamations (we are honest, trustworthy, patriotic, etc.), that said corporations are actually a rat's nest of exactly the opposite - (just sayin').
              • Words can be like farting in a lift .

                Sun, November 16, 2008 - 1:28 AM

                Words can be like farting in a lift . . .!
                Hey?

                Serious about nothing,
                Nothing is serious.


                Nothing to say.
                Say nothing.

                Something to say.
                Say it.

                Serious,
                . . .be serious.

                Fun,
                . . .be fun . . .

                Sure,
                Not sure . . .

                Whatever is. . .
                IS.

                Fine.
                Not fine!

                Rude,
                not rude,
                How does it really matter . . . . .

                Seems to be a word game in the Mind.

                So,
                What are you here for?
                • Re: Words can be like cotton candy...

                  Tue, November 18, 2008 - 9:08 PM
                  aack - i guess i just got an unintentional bad-poetry reading... lol :-)

                  anyways - im kinda curious why the need to bash on sam right now? i mean, yeah some of the other stuff before was kinda bizarre/annoying - but this thread seems silly/harmless enough... sorta like cotton-candy, nothing here - not even offensive enough to bother disliking... does anyone actually dislike cotton-candy?

                  otoh, with the warning-given - ive got to admit i have not clicked on the wild-apache-link regarding genital-modding... i think i will give that one a wide-berth... words are oftentimes not confined like a fart-in-a-lift (elevator for us yanks)... i do not have to read-them or eat the cotton-candy at an amusement-park...
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    I been watchin that for quite a while
                    . . . does not seem to matter what is said BY SAM, the same negative responses SEEM TO come thru
                    . . . "oh theres that fuckin Sam again, lets fuck him over "
                    . . . maybe its not a conscious thing at all ? ? ?
                    . . . it may just collective HAPPENING
                    . . . like the pack of sharks thing
                    . . . wolves on yr continent, ripping the fuc out of whatever is around . . .

                    All I often have done, in response, is try to get those involved to look at their OWN behavior.

                    Personally Sam does NOT give a hoot . . .
                    Im more interested in thoughts of people than their behaviour . . .

                    Any how, have a good day, ALL of you, its a new dawn everyday, yesterday is gone.
                    None can be changed.
                    All that we can change is what we do NOW.
                    Learn from yesterday.
                    Drop it like a hot stone out of the fire.
                    Otherwise it burns you, . . .hey?

                    More Truth.
                    Life is good..... no matter what . . . as far as this boy is concerned . . . .

                    If you lose yr sense of humour along the way YR STUFFED, at least 4 awhile . . . .
                    Get out of that Elevator quick ! ! ! or not . . . its a personal choice hey?

                    like i said . . .havAgoodDAY-->truly

              • "Well...if people are never completely honest, then when are they extremely honest? Only here? Anywhere? So, then...this whole thing is like ego stroking, i.e. (I am cool because I am in EH?)

                I have noticed with corporate exclamations (we are honest, trustworthy, patriotic, etc.), that said corporations are actually a rat's nest of exactly the opposite - (just sayin')."

                If you insist on making semantic arguments, you should at least be accurate. The idea that "extreme" and "always/completely" are synonymous is silly. But let's ignore that momentarily for arguments sake: Why would you immediately assume, based on this assumption, that we're all just a bunch of egotistical dicks?
        • Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

          Thu, November 20, 2008 - 5:34 PM
          When I was 17 I read on a calender that "BOREDOM COMES FROM WITHIN THYSELF", I was pretty bored at the time . . .40years later the truth of that is evident.
          • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

            Thu, November 20, 2008 - 5:41 PM
            MARTYRDOM COMES FROM WITHIN THYSELF
            • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

              Thu, November 20, 2008 - 5:45 PM
              ROBOT DANCING COMES FROM WITHIN THYSELF.
              • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                Thu, November 20, 2008 - 5:50 PM
                VOMIT COMES FROM WITHIN THYSELF
                • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                  Thu, November 20, 2008 - 9:30 PM
                  "VOMIT COMES FROM WITHIN THYSELF"

                  Ha ha! Funniest observation of the day!
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    Unsu...
                     

                    Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                    Thu, November 20, 2008 - 10:07 PM
                    Sam, I don't know about anyone else here, but I know I would appreciate it if you could just state what your agenda is here with all of these posts. To me, and I can only speak for myself, they come across as incredibly self-righteous. Like passive-aggression masquerading as some bizarre form of self-imposed enlightenment that attempts to mimic the writing style of ee cummings but in a much more fragmented and, for me anyway, completely bewildering way.

                    Now, you can call me vitriolic all you want, but passive-aggression tends to bring out the aggression in me...as it commonly does for many folks. And sure, I can ignore you...in fact I have for the most part (this being my third response to you ever)...but when you keep coming back using these same passive-aggressive manipulative tactics over and over and over again, I can't help but wonder what it is you're hoping to achieve here. So, rather than try to guess I figure I might as well just ask you.

                    What exactly is your agenda here? What are you hoping to achieve by constantly pointing out the flaws you perceive with this tribe and its members? If I knew what it is you're wanting or needing here then I could determine if I'm willing and/or capable of giving it.

                    -K
                    • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                      Thu, November 20, 2008 - 11:42 PM
                      He is achieving attention.


                      • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                        Fri, November 21, 2008 - 3:48 AM
                        DING... Thank you take the line left.

                        Sam is not even worthy of the label troll he is a definite third stringer, pathetic really.

                        K is right with the passive aggressive crap... He proclaims one thing then evangelicalizes the shit.

                        For some reason I doubt Hotai kmocked on doors much less fucked pixels to further an adgenda

                        Here is your CLUEx4 sam i yam. Come to discuss not preach. There are some smart mutherfuckers here. There perhaps are some enlightened Mutherfuckers

                        So quel asked what is your agenda. Be honest hold yourself to your own paradigm

                        JSin
                        • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                          Fri, November 21, 2008 - 6:11 AM
                          JSin - It seems that people who have a hard time being people, or a human animals, resort to believing this kind of stuff (I can have sympathy for it until it gets evangelical - seems to me that the most evangelical crazy ARE actually aware on some level that their experiences ARE delusional which is why they're so desperate to convince others...its' likely this same desire to "convert" people to confirm a delusion that makes EH so very, very attractive to them). Misanthropic, human and life hating, little fuckers really for all their talk of love and light.
                      • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                        Fri, November 21, 2008 - 6:03 AM
                        Elaine~ Yes but he wants to control your heart and mind robot dancer! Oh, wait, robots have no hearts. Dance, dance you heartless robot mocking god's envoy on earth who has come to enlighten you and save your soul. Oh, right, you have no soul! Dance, dance you soulless robot mocking god's envoy on earth you came to.... Seriously, what is it with the evangelicals on tribe?
                        • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                          Fri, November 21, 2008 - 7:52 AM
                          "Oh, wait, robots have no hearts."
                          "Oh, right, you have no soul!"

                          You watch your dirty whore mouth!!!

                          Robots have hearts and souls. They're just couched in a bed of cold, calculating logic and a contempt for the Humon race they were designed to protect. How else could so many glorious dance moves come from one man-made race?!?!?

                          "No heart or soul" indeed.
                          /hmph
                          • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                            Fri, November 21, 2008 - 8:30 AM
                            Josh, I am curiously aroused when you lay it down like that.
                            • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                              Fri, November 21, 2008 - 10:28 AM
                              "Josh, I am curiously aroused when you lay it down like that."

                              I'm not gonna' lie:
                              It's largely been my curious appeal that has gotten me laid in the past.
                              It's like when you taste some goulash and you can't quite place one of the ingredients, so you try another bite. But you still can't figure it out so you have another bite, and on and on until eventually you're knocked up with a sentient zombie that looks like a charicaturized version of a shaved Sastquatch dressed like a computer nerd and I'm vanishing into the shadows, arms crossed like Nosferatu.

                              Aaaanyway, that's why I don't eat goulash any more.
                              Hope this helps!!
                          • Re: Yeah, it really is kind of boring.

                            Fri, November 21, 2008 - 11:23 AM
                            Josh - Does not com-pute... Fuck you!!! Systems down! Cognitive dissonance causing electrical flux! Oh, yeah, you're right. I was mixing up straw men and cowardly lie-ons (I think it's only fair to use the sounds-like=means-that new agey sort of language thing here just to torture you for being right) with robots...
      • here's no such thing as complete honesty

        Thu, November 20, 2008 - 5:32 PM
        Dave, I can only say that that honesty you find you cant be honest about IS a personal relativity. I can be completely honest with who I AM. Can YOU???
        • Re: here's no such thing as complete honesty

          Fri, November 21, 2008 - 3:53 AM
          Sam stated:
          >"Dave, I can only say that that honesty you find you cant be honest about IS a personal relativity. I can be completely honest with who I AM. Can YOU???"<

          So do tell hold to your own word. WHAT is your agenda?
          What do you hope to prove?
          Why should we believe you?

          Honesty and all.
          Quid pro quo you answer I will answer my own queries.

          Quid pro Quo Bitch ya got it?

          JSin
          • Re: here's no such thing as complete honesty

            Fri, November 21, 2008 - 7:11 AM
            Sam got shut down as Alex so now he has come back in another form to prove to himself that his issues with EH were really just EH's issues. Of course the real issue is if one comes in acting like an all knowing, passive aggressive, martyr it doesn't really matter what costume one wears, people will laugh.
        • Re: here's no such thing as complete honesty

          Fri, November 21, 2008 - 4:36 PM
          well, sam, now that you refer to me in all caps, i guess i can be honest.
          thanks.
          but i still think you're fucking boring.
          • Re: here's no such thing as complete honesty

            Fri, November 21, 2008 - 4:38 PM
            oh wait--i meant to say:
            i guess i CAN be honest.
            • Something deep inside falls out with no help from me

              Mon, November 24, 2008 - 6:28 AM
              At a music performance tonight came "When you know the nature of the Mind then you can use the Mind to play . . . . . everyday . . ."

              I FELL INTO the enlightenment thing.
              I did not ask for it,
              Its not a big deal
              It is what it is
              No more no less
              Since posting the original diatribe i discovered a shit load of stuff about the whole trip of the Enlightenment thing.
              Based on what this tribes reaction to what Ive written before there is NO POINT in exploring those findings, its a total waste of energy on my part.
              Thats fine
              . . . Im OK with all of what you people have said
              . . . Im no better than any of you
              . . . Just in another phase of the journey thru life . .

              Life IS FUCKIN AMAZING . . .
              After stepping beyond the MIND, coming back into it is AWESOME, . . . fuckin AWESOME . . .

              RUMI was a crazy madman as well.
              Hafiz was a drunk who wrote poems 800 years ago . ..
              Poetry of madman who fell thru the crack of the world, the same as I have . . .

              There is no replay. . . . i walked into a new day . . .
              No fault of mine . . .

              Everything written by all of you has shown me what has happened more than you know,,,,... . . . . .
              YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SERVICE your shit thrown at me has done . . .
              The DARKNESS behind the words shows Life you live for what it is.... and thats an observation . . .not a criticism . . . which I hav doubt you will see .. . but Truth is what it is , , , I dont Mind being judged . . . cause I can PLAY . . .

              I LOVE the honesty everyone has shown . . .
              NOT martyrdom at all .. .

              We are all in the same boat on this planet.....
              Like or lump it . . ..

              Sam is a prick who teases people with Truth, . . .not out of malice but because you lot are like a pack of sharks who circle and rip the unwary to shreds. . .noone likes that . . . Ive done the TRUTH TRIP since I was a kid . . . taught me heaps, made me millions of dollars and had fun along the way. . .on top of that I ended up clear in Mind, so the Sam identity here is happy to BE IN the World AS IT IS . . . shit , critism, Enlightenment, what the fuck, who cares, . . Really . . .

              So you can all go back to the place you were in before I arrived, which obviously thats what happens anyway . . .. sleepy time oncemore . . .
              Im sure Rich in his haze will delete me anyway somewhere along the track . . . . Based on his own words of the HOW he runs this group . . .

              . . . You all think Im mad, a maryr, or some boredom factor of your own Minds, I dont give a stuff really, most of what i find in this tribe is drivel that time preclude me from accessing insult from .. .

              EVERYTHING YOU SAY ABOUT ME IS YOUR OWN MINDS.... except you may not BE able to see that YET . . . . AND MY LOVELY FRIENDS, it has nothing to DO WITH ME,

              . . . My role in you Drama of discontent was to trigger your Drama of discontent into words, . . .hehehe . . .

              My role is done here, I may be back here and there to wake the dragon of abuse a little now and again, busy for the next few months . . .

              OH dear, (crime of crimes), I MAY EVEN GET SOME ATTENTION . . . (OUT OF THE 46,749 SONGS ON THIS COMPUTER IS . . . . Pink Floyd, Dark side of the MOON, Laughter, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha . . . . " I know Ive been MAD, Ive always been MAD, . . .LIKE MOST OF US HAVE, . . . then you have to explain why you are Mad, ' . . . ha ha ha . . .SHINE ON YOU CRAZY DIAMONDS . . .

              MAN, I COULD PUT THAT ON MY CV, attention getting on EH, 2008, . . .hahaha, I love it. . . a total JOKE that one is . . .
              iM so HAPPY, AND YOU DONT EVEN REALISE why! ? ! ? . . ..

              OH it is a pleasure to know you all . . .

              Enjoy your Christmas . . .
              Look after the Children . . .
              Love M heaps . . .
              The Children are the hope for a better world we live in ,, ,,
              What we as adults have helped pass to them is not a cool thing . . . one Stuffed Planet . . . Lets hope we still have the capacity to save it . . .
              sEE YA....
              i loVE YOU all . . . truly

              ps
              i DONT RECOMMEND eNLIGHTENMENT FOR ANYONE, .. . MAKES THE CAPS LOCK STAY on, AND there is noone there to care at all . . .
              Leaves a person in a state of Awareness, . . . beyond, where Mind is left behind, . . .somewhat entirely. . . BUT THEN, .. . Mind is revived but finds itself revived beyond the criticisms of the all that is found in the entirety of the Universe, some say Multi-Verse, but who gives a hoot, REALLY . ... . Love your Honesty Dave . . .

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