http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#47a70ede-cb43-4829-97b5-7b8605529bce The US has the worst Internet privacy laws of any industrialized country on the planet. Google already knows far more about us than the City of Bozeman is asking for! For those that don't know, Google stores all the searches one makes from their computer and then "data-mines" it for purposes only they know. Google knows more about us then the feds even. Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:26:56 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#47a70ede-cb43-4829-97b5-7b8605529bce Karl 2009-07-12T21:26:56Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#f59bad03-b729-48d1-822d-80156bbab485 I say find a lawyer that would like to sue them for violating equal opportunity employment rights. You would not give them the key to your home, it would be illegal for them to demand the key to your home in exchange for a job. I am sure their is a lawyer that could make the same case...perhaps get you some money, or at least a job out of it. It wouldn't hurt to contact the ACLU. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:24:30 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#f59bad03-b729-48d1-822d-80156bbab485 bubbles 2009-06-23T22:24:30Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#d85f6a00-7865-4f74-b86a-f289dd656ebb They dropped it, but they still retain the *rights* to such info from those employees that were already in their system. So, while they've seemingly "dropped it" as part of their hiring process, they aren't giving any privacy back to current city employees. -K Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:29:59 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#d85f6a00-7865-4f74-b86a-f289dd656ebb $item.owner.firstName 2009-06-22T20:29:59Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#aa26ffcc-0e4e-4589-bbdc-cc20bd61894b well, figures they've dropped it like the hot pile of shit it was: http://www.montanasnewsstation.com/Global/story.asp?S=10558291 my favorite piece of snarkitude from the story: "Interview comment #817 ‘I'm sorry, according to the 'Which Vegetable Are You' quiz, you are a turnip. We can't hire turnips,'" one person wrote, making reference to Facebook quizzes. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:15:12 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#aa26ffcc-0e4e-4589-bbdc-cc20bd61894b magpie 2009-06-22T18:15:12Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#df250164-7d40-4559-b7ee-e050c8306813 drug testing has been the rule here for a long time now, it's all about creating castes of people - insiders and outsiders, maintaining a workable community of privileged people who comply. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:11:35 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#df250164-7d40-4559-b7ee-e050c8306813 Mick 2009-06-22T14:11:35Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#9ff86141-bfa0-49e2-b172-7615536f1f96 Do they really think we won't find work elsewhere unless we go spread-eagle with our private selves for their creepy voyerism? I thought drug-testing was draconian, I guess the economy has opened up a whole cottage industry for creepy autocrats with boundaries issues! Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:12:37 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#9ff86141-bfa0-49e2-b172-7615536f1f96 PatFireCat 2009-06-22T08:12:37Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#deed796f-08f3-427e-a97d-8da54281d662 LOL Get stuffed City of Bozeman ! :) Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:53:40 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#deed796f-08f3-427e-a97d-8da54281d662 Bloke. Trivia Pimp 2009-06-22T06:53:40Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#79c4f4f0-487f-4cb5-94a7-6368f71ede77 What is strangest about this is asking for people's passwords! They're not just asking to be friended or to have access to information, they're asking to be able to have access to control of your profile (meaning, any employee with access to this information could take someone's password and really screw around with that person's info and relationships - not to mention spy on other people in their network...so the privacy violation has a ripple effect.) Of course, the essential problem is employers thinking they own people outside of the time they rent them to do work for them. Once upon a time, for a brief moment in history, there were these things called unions that fought really hard so that rich employers couldn't actually own people anymore (through usury/indentured servitude or through wage slavery). City's used to have them to protect city workers. I'm amazed at how much people put up with in the US in terms of limitations on personal freedom and activities outside work by employers. It's only going to get uglier in the US with such high unemployment too. The whole auto industry fiasco seems more like an excuse to union bust and drain tax payers pockets than anything else. Personally I'm appalled (but not surprised) by how brazen it's all been on both sides of the border. Though, considering the state of Canada (pun intended) and our rapid decline into swimming in the same corporate run neocon/liberal cesspool, Canadian have become complicit in our inaction and quiet submission to corporate interests that go against our own as a society and individuals. Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:26:20 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#79c4f4f0-487f-4cb5-94a7-6368f71ede77 Fifi 2009-06-21T14:26:20Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#c90f1dfe-628a-4d29-bcd3-c1f10aed0f53 Yeah, I'm exactly the same, facebook is my "professional" face and the rest could easily be denied, not that anyone serious about tracking it down couldn't, but the casual looker (the underemployed, overworked clerk at the county office) would be unlikely to find anything. And I do hope there is some success with lawsuits, and some restoration of our right to privacy. The more capable we are of violating each others' privacy, the more vigilant and adamant we need to be of respecting that right. My personal life is none of my employers business, it's none of the governments business. Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:46:10 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#c90f1dfe-628a-4d29-bcd3-c1f10aed0f53 lori 2009-06-21T13:46:10Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#57ff8d8a-b57b-47e1-9ea0-4ef8eb5ef1ab Yeah definitely would make me consider purging data or closing down profiles on other networking sites. With the exemption of facebook all my shit is under JSin. Not an easy one to hide but one that through some pic purging would be deniable. A job to provide for yourself and family would be a strong motivator. But being it is a city job the lay lawyer in me would make it in my mind an invasion of privacy and a violation of 1st and 4th amendment provisions. I suspect there will be a few nasty lawsuits generated from this. JSin Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:29:20 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#57ff8d8a-b57b-47e1-9ea0-4ef8eb5ef1ab JSin 2009-06-21T13:29:20Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#8353579f-a88b-4ca8-b28e-490b018d2a43 Create a persona, Miss Sweet, Innocent, of the correct political bent persona? Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:00:34 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#8353579f-a88b-4ca8-b28e-490b018d2a43 lori 2009-06-19T23:00:34Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#6f05c5f7-7a4f-4220-9349-303acd3620a0 Or 50's USA? Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:18:56 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#6f05c5f7-7a4f-4220-9349-303acd3620a0 Xiomara 2009-06-19T22:18:56Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#dbf6a79b-71e1-476f-8123-19e5d5680994 wow, and, yeah, NO!!! F*ck that gig. The only people who will now apply are those who don't have any networking connections. Sheesh, what are we in the 50's in Russia? Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:47:49 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#dbf6a79b-71e1-476f-8123-19e5d5680994 Tinkles 2009-06-19T19:47:49Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#93792799-4dd7-4352-a80c-9c5e721bf3a8 Uhhhhh.... Yeah. HOw about NO. Jeez. Expect some backpeddling soon on that. Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:09:24 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#93792799-4dd7-4352-a80c-9c5e721bf3a8 Elaine~ 2009-06-19T19:09:24Z http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#62643392-df81-4db1-8cab-295a47452d8c http://www.montanasnewsstation.com/Global/story.asp?S=10558291 With more than 3,000 applicants and only 160 available jobs, the City of Bozeman (my home) has decided to narrow it's focus by asking applicants to divulge their membership with networking sites, INCLUDING their passwords!!! "At the heart of the uproar is a requirement included on a waiver statement applicants must sign, giving the City permission to conduct an investigation into the person's "background, references, character, past employment, education, credit history, criminal or police records." Those that don't comply won't be considered. -K Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:05:44 GMT http://extremehonesty.tribe.net/thread/e6ff9abf-7769-43d3-ab35-e65b6871ee42#62643392-df81-4db1-8cab-295a47452d8c $item.owner.firstName 2009-06-19T19:05:44Z