why specially on tribe?

well I dedicated it to the sincere seeks.. but all manner of man, woman, or child is welcomed to participate in whatever manner they choose.

Who gets to determine who is sincere and who isn't?

I think it would be a daunting task to really express many of the emotions you list without face to face interaction. Words cannot express some things.

There is certainly a tendency for some to spew thinly veiled insecurity in the form of accusation and aggression, which is sometimes met in kind and at other times ignored. There are other tribes in which there is trust and I can be very open and vulnerable. Many of the people are valuable to me in my life and their opinions(which often are different than my own) and support mean a heap to me.

I don't understand the purpose of trying to dig into 'emotional honesty' levels. What does that really mean and why would it be appropriate with people who are basically strangers for the most part? I like the cocktail party reference. Would you want to spill your emotional guts at a party? I bet the invitation would 'get lost' for every party afterwards.

There is a time and place and medium for emotional nakedness, but I doubt this is it, and yes, there is a lack of trust. When you could be singled out, pigeon-holed and railed for what someone else may falsely perceive and there can be no way to make amends, it's self preservation.

Would you feel safe given the reception you've had, Alex? I wouldn't if I were you, and I don't based on my own experiences. Not all have been like this, actually most have been just fine but why put your hand in the hole when you don't know what's in it? Sometimes you get bit.

Why do you feel that intellectual discourse is proxy for emotional discourse??

It could just as easily be argued that the opposite exists, that emotional discourse is utilized where there is a lack of intellect. For proof look to some of the more touchy feely tribes.

Personally I like the fact that this tribe focuses more on intellectual discourse and discussion rather than what I would view as whining and emotional tripe.

There is plenty of space for both on tribe and individual tribes develop their own flavor over time. Contrary to what you allude to there is nothing wrong with either but to expect one that has attracted one type of person to suddenly change into the other is likely unreasonable. To consider the lack of one side in deference to the other is arrogant.

Yes to answer your question there is less of a touchy feely hippy dippy feel to this tribe. It has nothing to do with courage or fear but rather is a reflection of what this tribe is, the culture that has developed, the flavor of it if you were.

As I said there are other tribes that likely would better fulfill that emotional communication niche than this one, but in turn in my experience they tend to fall short in the intellectual conversation end of it.

JSin

Alex,

You make my brain hurt.
"Honesty'' doesn't need to be this.fucking.complicated.

honesty is personal.
i'm impressed that people have even bothered to humor you
by responding to this thread.

I agree with many comments here; quelquechose has really summed it up well - I don't see this at all as a place for people to get emotional and personal or look for emotional, personal responses - there's a certain . . . hmm, how to say? rather intellectual and ballsy attitude to the group, I think. There are other places for touchy-feely, plenty of them.

But I notice it's been quite a while since people did come to the tribe with situations from their personal lives, looking for sincere input, on any kind of regular basis. Quite a few have not liked their experience doing that, I suspect. Maybe we need to do some soliciting.

This lack of fresh meat being thrown into the pen seems to have resulted in recycling topics that can't ever be resolved anyway - I am really fatigued with repeated debates about [adjective] honesty, any kind you want.